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I wonder how this compares to similar initiatives by e.g. Sony [0] and Leica [1]. [0]: https://authenticity.sony.net/camera/en-us/ [1]: https://petapixel.com/2023/10/26/leica-m11-p-review-as-authe...
Canon gave users the option to sign their photographs with "add original decision data". It got cracked. * https://petapixel.com/2010/12/01/russian-software-firm-break... * https://www.elcomsoft.com/presentations/Forging_Canon_Origin...
I predicted something similar a while back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31092225
How could this possibly validate that the camera sensor that's attached to it is actually a camera sensor and not just an FPGA sending raw data?
I used to be really (really really) into photography. I respect anyone working hard on a physical product, but this misses the mark on every front I can think of. The real issue that photographers grapple with, emotionally and financially, is that pictures have become so thoroughly commodified that nobody assigns them cultural value anymore. They are the thumbnail you see before the short video clip starts playing. N…
The problem with the linked product is it’s basically DRM with a baked in encryption key. And we have seen time and time again that with enough effort, it’s always been possible to extract that key.
How could this possibly validate that the camera sensor that's attached to it is actually a camera sensor and not just an FPGA sending raw data?
The light sensor must have a key built into the hardware at the factory, and that sensor must attest that it hasn't detected any tampering, that gets input into the final signature.
We must petition God to start signing photons, and the camera sensor must also incorporate the signature of every photon input to it, and verify each photon was signed by God's private key.
God isn't currently signing photons, but if he could be convinced to it would make this problem a lot easier so I'm sure he'll listen to reason soon.
I used to be really (really really) into photography. I respect anyone working hard on a physical product, but this misses the mark on every front I can think of. The real issue that photographers grapple with, emotionally and financially, is that pictures have become so thoroughly commodified that nobody assigns them cultural value anymore. They are the thumbnail you see before the short video clip starts playing. N…
Seems to me that a camera like this is necessarily, at least in part, a closed system that blocks you from controlling the software or hardware on the device you supposedly own. It's hard for me to think this is a good direction. And as others have pointed out, it can't prevent attacks through the analog hole, e.g. photographing a display. It's not feasible or desirable for our hardware devices to verify the informat…
If you’ve got a photo of a public figure, but it doesn’t match the records of where they were at that time, it’s now suspicious.
Seems to me that a camera like this is necessarily, at least in part, a closed system that blocks you from controlling the software or hardware on the device you supposedly own. It's hard for me to think this is a good direction. And as others have pointed out, it can't prevent attacks through the analog hole, e.g. photographing a display. It's not feasible or desirable for our hardware devices to verify the informat…
This feels like pearl clutching. We do not need "proof". We lived without it, and we'll live without it again. I grew up before broadband - we survived without photographing every moment, too. It was actually kind of nice. Social media is the real fluke of our era, not image generation. And hypothetically if these cryptographic "non-AI really super serious real" verification systems do become in vogue, what happens i…
I used to be really (really really) into photography. I respect anyone working hard on a physical product, but this misses the mark on every front I can think of. The real issue that photographers grapple with, emotionally and financially, is that pictures have become so thoroughly commodified that nobody assigns them cultural value anymore. They are the thumbnail you see before the short video clip starts playing. N…
The biggest lie capitalism tells us is that something only has value if it can be sold.