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Re: Roc Camera

#61

I’m not seeing what this is product is trying to solve? A zero knowledge proof to say it isn’t AI ? I think you could do this with a disposable camera or Polaroids and a photo scanner that makes the zero knowledge proofs .

I love my medium format film cameras. I think everyone interested in photography should try it. Yashicas (just as an example of a company that made good medium format film cameras) are surprisingly affordable on eBay. I've had good luck buying from Japan, FWIW.

With the tariffs this is no longer possible for US persons.

Re: Roc Camera

#62
I used to be really (really really) into photography. I respect anyone working hard on a physical product, but this misses the mark on every front I can think of.

The real issue that photographers grapple with, emotionally and financially, is that pictures have become so thoroughly commodified that nobody assigns them cultural value anymore. They are the thumbnail you see before the short video clip starts playing.

Nobody has ever walked past a photograph because they can't inspect its digital authenticity hash. This is especially funny to me because I used to struggle with the fact that people looking at your work don't know or care what kind of camera or process was involved. They don't know if I spent two hours zoomed in removing microscopic dust particles from the scanning process after a long hike to get a single shot at 5:30am, or if it was just the 32nd of 122 shots taken in a burst by someone holding up an iPad Pro Max at a U2 concert.

This all made me sad for a long time, but I ultimately came to terms with the fact that my own incentives were perverse; I was seeking the external gratification of getting likes just like everyone else. If you can get back to a place where you're taking photographs or making music or doing 5 minute daily synth drills for your own happiness with no expectation of external validity, you will be far happier taking that $399 and buying a Mamiya C330.

This video is about music, but it's also about everything worth doing for the right reasons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvQF4YIvxwE

Re: Roc Camera

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my medium format film cameras. I think everyone interested in photography should try it. Yashicas (just as an example of a company that made good medium format film cameras) are surprisingly affordable on eBay. I've had good luck buying from Japan, FWIW.

With the tariffs this is no longer possible for US persons.

Do the tariffs apply on used items as well? In any case such cameras are fairly cheap nowadays

Re: Roc Camera

#66

If you are taking the photo yourself, you know where they come from. While would you need signed pictures to prove that?

Oh no! You've discovered that the product is completely pointless! If only they had asked you first!

Re: Roc Camera

#67

I used to be really (really really) into photography. I respect anyone working hard on a physical product, but this misses the mark on every front I can think of. The real issue that photographers grapple with, emotionally and financially, is that pictures have become so thoroughly commodified that nobody assigns them cultural value anymore. They are the thumbnail you see before the short video clip starts playing. N…

The biggest lie capitalism tells us is that something only has value if it can be sold.

Re: Roc Camera

#68

If you are taking the photo yourself, you know where they come from. While would you need signed pictures to prove that?

When rocking your Meta, Ray Ban, MacDonalds, Tesla XR AR 0009fNG plus Reality engine contact lense inplants it will be important to cross reference your experiences with what really happened.

Re: Roc Camera

#69

Am I just a crazy cynic or are ZK proofs here just a buzzword. Like, how is this any different than having each camera equipped with a vendor controlled key and then having it sign every photo? If you can spoof the sensor enough to reuse the key, couldn't you spoof the sensor enough to fool a verifier into believing your false proof?

You take a photo of an AI generated photo. What's yr proof worth then?
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