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Half of America isn’t fine with Trump. Only 22.3% of Americans voted for him and his approval rating has gone down significantly since then.

Another 36% could've voted against him and chose not to. Even accounting for some amount literally unable to reach the poll booth, yeah, half of America.

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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them. Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. And from what we've seen, he was right to do so. Although, they've been angling to declare his pardons void so they can go after whoever they wish.

> Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them. Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. Are pre-emptive pardons a common thing for American presidents to do?

Only when the incoming administration labelled your family a "crime family" and led stadiums to chants of "lock them up".

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It's like there's a new social contract that states: it's not corruption if it's done in the open.

The US has always been kind of scammy vs other western nations. In the movie when he says "have you no shame sir?", the answer typically is "nope".

The American dream is basically getting rich by scamming.

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Which congress do you want doing that review? The past several congresses have been unqualified to do any sort of constitutional reviewing in my opinion.

If we can't figure out how to get a Congress that most people believe in then I worry that is the beginning of the end for this government. Hopefully we get to try from scratch a third time if that happens but I worry that collapse will be too tempting for Russia or China to not step in. Maybe we can be lucky and get conquered by Canada first in that case? What a weird thing to think...

Gerrymandering is at the heart of the rot.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism Sounds reasonable. This is ok for Trump to do because of Hunter Biden.

The Hunter Biden pardon was necessary because it was clear that despite his admission of guilt, he was not going to receive a fair punishment. The Republican party leadership was very open in expressing their intentions for him, and had _already_ circumvented the judicial system to give him cruel and unusual punishment.

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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Unfortunately, sometimes our judges, juries, and officers are also biased or incorrect; pardons are useful when the delivery of justice was mistaken or excessive.

Pardons only enable presidents to direct their goons to operate outside of the rule of law without repercussions.Having one individual with strong incentives to enable their team stay in power as much as possible retain the power is shocking. Judges and juries are at least superficially removed from that sort of corrupt incentive system.

> Pardons only enable presidents to direct their goons to operate outside of the rule of law without repercussions.

It is clear that they don't only do that, as that has not been their principal (or even a common) use for most of the history of the pardon power.

It is equally clear, however, that they do allow that; the check on that, like on most discretionary Presidential powers, is the Congressional power of impeachment; obviously, that is not a meaningful constraint when the Congress and the President are aligned on abuses, but the entire point of having separately elected bodies is to make it less likely that things that the public would see as abuses are supported by both political branches simultaneously. (Obviously, the fact that one whole house of Congress and 1/3 of the other are elected at the same time as the President, and that the weighting of the electoral college for the President are a blend of the apportionment to the House and Senate makes those elections less independent than one might want, even before considering the way the electoral structure contributors to partisan duopoly, though.)

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them. Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. And from what we've seen, he was right to do so. Although, they've been angling to declare his pardons void so they can go after whoever they wish.

> Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them Ha ha. They (democrats overall) need to look inwards for that. > Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. Fauci screwed up our country so bad, it aint even funny. The fact that he needed a PRE-EMPTIVE (i.e. he wasn't even accused of anything at the time) pardon says it all. And the fact that Biden…

Easy: what passes for diplomacy has been so awful that nobody wants to buy weapons from us anymore, nor do they value our treaty commitments. Oh the irony of proposing to meet in Budapest.
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