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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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As long as you bow to King Trump.

I have no proof of this, but I would bet that there will be some quid-pro-quo involved between Trump and the pardonee. Trump does not usually give things away, he leverages his power to get more power/money.

He didn't pardon Maxwell despite her coming out and saying she didn't see Trump do anything awful with Epstein.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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I'm not sure why Presidents were given the ability to pardon. Besides corruption, bias, or self-interest, nothing else can come out of it.

Unfortunately, sometimes our judges, juries, and officers are also biased or incorrect; pardons are useful when the delivery of justice was mistaken or excessive.

> pardons are useful when the delivery of justice was mistaken or excessive

If you look at a slew of the recent pardons, the beneficiaries had already pleaded guilty. In those cases, the pardons should be ineligible. I think the most a President could do - should be - give defendants the ability to appeal the case to a new judge or jury. It's wrong and should be corrected! Added it to my todo list

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why Presidents were given the ability to pardon. Besides corruption, bias, or self-interest, nothing else can come out of it.

Unfortunately, sometimes our judges, juries, and officers are also biased or incorrect; pardons are useful when the delivery of justice was mistaken or excessive.

Pardons only enable presidents to direct their goons to operate outside of the rule of law without repercussions.Having one individual with strong incentives to enable their team stay in power as much as possible retain the power is shocking.

Judges and juries are at least superficially removed from that sort of corrupt incentive system.

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Serious question - it seems that many of this Administrations activities are illegal in some way or the other. I know that government officials are shielded from a lot of actions so they can not be prosecuted. What actions that have been taken could actually be prosecuted? For example, I would have to assume that the ballroom demolition and build-out is illegal, there were $0 appropriated from Congress for this, and…

Assuming a normal election where the pendulum swings back and a normal transfer of power (no certain things), the outgoing President could pardon everyone from his chiefs of staff and cabinet officers to low-level federal law enforcement on the way out, and then the Democrats would wring their hands and say there's nothing they can do, bar some large scale political realignment where Republicans lost control of numer…

Why it is even accepted that pardons can be issued before conviction?

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#78

Key line: > "Since Trump’s election, Binance has also been a key supporter of his family’s World Liberty Financial crypto venture, a business that has driven a huge leap in the president’s personal wealth." "Huge leap" meaning $5 billion, https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-wlfi-world-liberty-financ... ( "New crypto token boosts Trump family's wealth by $5 billion" )

Not sure why you quote it, that's pretty huge. I'd call any double-digit percent increase on a billionaire's wealth huge.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#79

It's a good thing Trump is as old as he is. Imagine if a 50 year old had this much influence over his party, could ignore any law, and stole this much money. May I never live to see such a thing happen in the US, but it doesn't feel unlikely.

We better hope JD Vance isn't able to capture the cult of personality after Trump is gone.

I have doubts that JD Vance can pull off a Republican realignment to himself. He's not a 2nd gen wealthy person who assumes that every one will do his bidding.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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It's a good thing Trump is as old as he is. Imagine if a 50 year old had this much influence over his party, could ignore any law, and stole this much money. May I never live to see such a thing happen in the US, but it doesn't feel unlikely.

We better hope JD Vance isn't able to capture the cult of personality after Trump is gone.

Such personality cultists usually filter for other great egos in there sphere, leaving behind burned out parties filled with syccophants. If the history of the USSR teaches us anything, the more dangerous aspirants are bookkeepers for the party, managing silently in the background, secret service personal and (checks notes) clowns? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Khrushchev#Stalin's_fin...
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