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Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by burningChrome »

teachrdan wrote: post #74
at-fates-hands wrote: post #69

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A) Ephesians is not found in the Old Testament; it is a letter written by the Apostle Paul in the New Testament. It addresses themes of grace, unity, and the church's role in God's plan, which are not specifically covered in the Old Testament. B) The section you reference outlines the biblical perspective on the roles within marriage. The concept of submission is presented as a voluntary act, reflecting the relations…

A) I'm well aware Ephesians is not found in the Old Testament; that's why I chose it. These verses are specific to Christianity, just as anything from the Quran would be specific to Islam. B) "The concept of submission is presented as a voluntary act" What is written in any faith's texts is imposed on its followers, whether it was intended to be voluntary or not. We can only speculate how many millions of women were…

>> But OP was happy to demonize all of Islam based on a few quotes with seemingly no account of their historical or religious context.

You just spent several paragraphs doing the same with far more inflammatory, subjective language.

Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by cholantesh »

energy123 wrote: post #123
cholantesh wrote: post #101

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Islamism is also neither a 'culture' nor a reasonable characterization of Mamdani's political programme.

That is true but it must always be possible to crticize Islamism whereas the comment I was replying to was attempting to construct a taboo against it.

No it wasn't. It understood correctly that Maguire was making a deliberate conflation and treated it accordingly.

Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by prewett »

UncleMeat wrote: post #127
prewett wrote: post #109

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> Isn't that rational? If you found that a colleague had views you found personally abhorrent AND you had the luxury of being able to walk away from the job, wouldn't you? I consider that to be immature and highly unprofessional. It used to be that professionalism considered the realm of private opinion to have no bearing on whether you could work with someone. It also used to be that we might abhor your opinion but…

Posting on twitter isn't "private life." I do not see why "has the right to say something" and "everybody has to refuse to change their behavior towards this person in any way" are supposed to be the same thing.

I didn't say you had to treat the person the same way; you might not like the guy and might not hang out with him. But part of professionalism is being able to work productively with people you strongly disagree with.

Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by UncleMeat »

prewett wrote: post #133
UncleMeat wrote: post #127

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Posting on twitter isn't "private life." I do not see why "has the right to say something" and "everybody has to refuse to change their behavior towards this person in any way" are supposed to be the same thing.

I didn't say you had to treat the person the same way; you might not like the guy and might not hang out with him. But part of professionalism is being able to work productively with people you strongly disagree with.

I simply don't agree in all circumstances.

Like seven or eight years ago I was at lunch at work with a sister team of ours. They had an intern who decided at lunch to announce that he was a fascist and that gay people were degenerates who were ruining society. Should the team have just said "huh that's quirky" and moved on? What of the gay people on the team who'd now be needing to work with somebody who openly thought that they were filth and expressed this at work?

Now instead of an intern, imagine that this was somebody's boss. Or the CEO. Is it really unprofessional to leave rather than choosing to work for and enrich somebody like that?

Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by 762236 »

croes wrote: post #120
762236 wrote: post #106

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The immigrants eating pets was Haitian immigrants kill and eat pets in Springfield, Ohio, that was simply a lie. The No Kings demonstration are quite the opposite of hatred of American culture. Being full of crime and being out of control are different things. There are cities with much higher crime rates in red states but somehow deploying the National Guard isn’t an option. Claiming causation were only is correlati…

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Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by reactordev »

prewett wrote: post #133
UncleMeat wrote: post #127

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Posting on twitter isn't "private life." I do not see why "has the right to say something" and "everybody has to refuse to change their behavior towards this person in any way" are supposed to be the same thing.

I didn't say you had to treat the person the same way; you might not like the guy and might not hang out with him. But part of professionalism is being able to work productively with people you strongly disagree with.

I agree with this up to a point. If their shenanigans is making dealing with them even professionally unbearable, you owe it to yourself to determine whether that environment is worth staying in.

Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by 762236 »

hndweller1337 wrote: post #124
762236 wrote: post #106

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Immigrants eating pets: You mean white Europeans that regularly consume dogs and cats? https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-30205410

Although I'm vegetarian, I consider it smart to eat animals that are available when you are low on money (I don't know details and don't care, as long as people aren't eating the animals in protected areas like parks)

Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by yowlingcat »

almostgotcaught wrote: post #115
yowlingcat wrote: post #103

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After the sentence you quoted, what does the very next sentence say?

Lol that he has a PhD? So either you think 1. The fact that he cheated his way into Stanford is completely irrelevant when considering whether he cheated his way into Caltech or 2. No dummies graduate PhD programs, even T10 PhD programs, just like no dummies are admitted to T10 BS programs or both. I hope you understand that one or both of these perspectives is either the height of naivety or more of that backbending…

He has a PhD in /physics/ from Caltech, and that was before he became an extremely successful investor.

If I had the platform Maguire had, I'd likely it in a different direction. But I'm not him so who cares? He has achieved significant academic and professional outcomes not in spite of but likely because of the way he is.

Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean they're an unaccomplished idiot no matter how gratifying and simplifying that would be. And I think it's really unfortunate that people let their resentment of others outside their tribe (and often their inability to perceive their tribal filters) get in the way of accurately perceiving reality as it is and not the way they wish it worked. It stunts their intellectual development and maturation into an adult, and I think it's just such a waste.

Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by almostgotcaught »

yowlingcat wrote: post #138
almostgotcaught wrote: post #115

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Lol that he has a PhD? So either you think 1. The fact that he cheated his way into Stanford is completely irrelevant when considering whether he cheated his way into Caltech or 2. No dummies graduate PhD programs, even T10 PhD programs, just like no dummies are admitted to T10 BS programs or both. I hope you understand that one or both of these perspectives is either the height of naivety or more of that backbending…

He has a PhD in /physics/ from Caltech, and that was before he became an extremely successful investor. If I had the platform Maguire had, I'd likely it in a different direction. But I'm not him so who cares? He has achieved significant academic and professional outcomes not in spite of but likely because of the way he is. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean they're an unaccomplished idiot no matter how…

> He has a PhD in /physics/ from Caltech, and that was before he became an extremely successful investor.

so i guess you didn't read anything i wrote on that matter. ok.

Re: Sequoia COO quit over Shaun Maguire's comments about Mamdani

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Post by nebula8804 »

pm90 wrote: post #35
usrxcghghj wrote: post #21

This dude really says some things without even analyzing how degressive they are; really tone deaf, pompous and disrespectful to large swaths of people. I mean, at least post this from your anime pfp alt account.

Some people have never heard “no” and it shows.

When I'm feeling down, I watch this Netflix engineer challenge Elon with a simple question and instantly feel better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJo-ulbIu8I

Still waiting for that "total rewrite" of Twitter.

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