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As a computer scientist and an Opera user this actually insults me: http://i.imgur.com/7k0bN.png Ironically Opera was the one who proposed the -tag which this site uses for it's rotating LP, in 2007. [1] Way to exclude users. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#History_of_.3Cvideo...
Too little, too late. Their brand is tarnished forever and they'll never recover.
Meh, the kids won't care. If some popular people use it because it's way more fun and exciting than shitty old Facebook, (plus they hear the odd story about how fun the old MySpace was) then it could get it's foot in the door.
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Don't mix "development cost" with "overall support cost". Overall support will include specific feature testing, regression testing, and user testing. Additionally, support tickets may be opened and introduce support costs in ticket management, escalation, and assessment.
Don't provide any extra support? "Your browser is not supported/you are on your own" is much better than denying access. Eventually people will start spoofing just to get in, and then you have a much worse problem in your hands. You know the Opera story. There is no excuse to block user agents unless it's commercial software with support contracts on the line.
As a computer scientist and an Opera user this actually insults me: http://i.imgur.com/7k0bN.png Ironically Opera was the one who proposed the -tag which this site uses for it's rotating LP, in 2007. [1] Way to exclude users. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#History_of_.3Cvideo...
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I'll pass on your humbling words to the design team, I'm sure they'll appreciate your words. They put a lot of hard work into the redesign, they're not trying to be anything. What you see is a refreshing take on a social site and although I am biased because I work for the agency that designed (as a developer) it doesn't take a designer to see this is the best MySpace has ever looked. It's condescending comments like…
I didn't say anything about the main design. Look at that browser message and tell me it isn't stupid.
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"Hey friend, it looks like you are using Opera. Beware, pal, that we don't go to the opera down here on the ranch, so there may be rough-riding ahead! Try one of these nifty browsers buddy, or sally forth into the unknown. OK, pardner?"
You can put all the disclaimers you want before a use and they will "venture forth into the unknown". However, they will ignore (if they even read/understood it) your warning and then bury you in support tickets, complain loudly to their friends, and leave you with a mess to deal with and no real clean/easy way out.
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Don't provide any extra support? "Your browser is not supported/you are on your own" is much better than denying access. Eventually people will start spoofing just to get in, and then you have a much worse problem in your hands. You know the Opera story. There is no excuse to block user agents unless it's commercial software with support contracts on the line.
I challenge your assumption that the average person knows how to spoof user agents.
I wish we could see this level of design work for products that aren't for hipsters and celebrities though.
From a look at Josephmark's webpage, it looks pretttty similar to We Are Hunted (http://wearehunted.com/a/#/emerging/) and The Global Mail, which are their works. I imagine the conversation went something like this:
MySpace exec: "Nice work on WeAreHunted! Can you replicate basically the same site with some venn diagrams?" Josephmark: ::shrugs:: Sure, how much?
All cynicism aside, it doesn't really matter where myspace got the idea, the video actually looks like this is executed pretty well. I hope myspace will resurrect into something cool and useful to people.
Congrats to the design and dev teams!
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So what exactly do you propose? That we just halt all technological innovation on the web so that people that don't feel better about having old browsers and/or computers? This is a ridiculous idea, and a ridiculous comment. I'm a web developer and I'm so excited about making awesome things and the fact that the web is evolving and enabling us to do this, and share our creations with the world. People like you and co…
> So what exactly do you propose? Sane and simple standards that can be implemented in any platform without requiring hundreds of man years of effort. Nothing done in the web today is particularly technically advanced, we are about the same UI level as standard apps were more than 10 years ago (hell, I doubt you can build a photo manipulation app today that can compete with where Photoshop was 10 years ago). Most of…
To think that some people are actualy getting paid to make submitting and retrieving data using web overly complicated and annoying is one of those things I try not to think about. The standards idea clearly is not working if it is being interpreted as a mandate for needless complexity to keep web developers entertained. Instead we hear web developers complain that standards are being ignored because some browser will not support their desired gratuitious complexity. I would say they've lost the plot but I'm not sure there ever was a sane plot to begin with.