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Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by csours »

notatoad wrote: post #68
lordlarm wrote: post #48

As a computer scientist and an Opera user this actually insults me: http://i.imgur.com/7k0bN.png Ironically Opera was the one who proposed the -tag which this site uses for it's rotating LP, in 2007. [1] Way to exclude users. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#History_of_.3Cvideo...

Opera doesn't support websockets. I'm sure some socket.IO fans will tell me that's not a big deal, but it kind of is. modern browsers support websockets. and i know, this demo doesn't use it and will work fine in opera if you spoof the UA, but it's a lot easier to develop if you pick a feature set you're going to support, and skim out any browsers that don't support that feature set.

Or you could just use the features you want to use and try to fail gracefully when you can't. (Old IE could be a special case, as it is solid chunk of FUBAR.)

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by zalzane »

astrodust wrote: post #70
wmeredith wrote: post #17

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Bullshit. Go ask a twelve year old who's going to start creating their online persona this year what Myspace is. They won't know what you're talking about.

Then their eighteen year old brother will flick them in the ear and call them a loser and a noob and they'll quickly learn.

When you were 12 years old, did you go out of your way to tell your parents/brother that you had a myspace?

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by DigitalSea »

chrisacky wrote: post #13

Just watched the video [1] in entirety. One point, you can tell this is a total work in progress/concept, and that the UI is also most likely staged at this point. (I make this observation based on the fact that every post had "12 Connects", "3 Comments" and "2 Shares". Surely if you put this much effort into production of a video you would change these numbers?) Anyway, features which I picked up from the video... -…

The company I work for (Josephmark) was hired by MySpace to redesign the site and create something radically different. The interface you see was created by a few talented designers, the video you say was staged is definitely not staged. What you are seeing is what the new MySpace will look like when it's ready to launch. Yes, the site is focusing music - the new MySpace is going to be a social music platform because it has always and still is MySpace's biggest strength (they have access to more music and videos than anyone else), when you have more music than Spotify it would be crazy to try and target a different niche. it has been mentioned by MySpace themselves in interviews about the new site it's a music product. MySpace are not trying to compete with Facebook, if anything their new competitors are now Spotify, Last.fm and Rdio. The very fact you can login with your Facebook is proof of this enough.

The new MySpace is very much a music product. It has a fresh, crisp interface and it's smooth, sexy & fast. It's the fastest and best performing MySpace by far. What you see is the impressive work of the MySpace development team who have done an amazing job at taking ambitious designs and turning them into something captivating and interactive.

Don't judge the site people until you try it. From a developer perspective, I think most people here on HN will appreciate how technologically advanced and smooth the new MySpace is which has been built from the ground up when it's launched. As you can see it's more than a mere re-skinning of the old MySpace code base.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by iamben »

anjc wrote: post #81
iamben wrote: post #73

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I think pushing hip will be tough whilst still under the myspace banner, Timberlake or not. Perhaps a complete rebrand would have helped. Trouble is, often big pictures and slick graphics isn't what the average person wants - they just want it to work, and work well - it's why everyone moved from MySpace to fb in the first place. It looks really pretty, though!

Absolutely. As good as the redesign is, the Myspace brand seems like a total dead duck. It almost caused a sense of panicked inner confusion in me to see such a pretty design followed by the Myspace logo. I'd argue with you about big pictures and slick graphics not being what the average person wants: I think there's been a big move towards having a sense of hipness to your online identity, e.g. instagram, tumblr, ev…

Haha yes, it would have been a whole lot more interesting under a new banner!

I think your average person and your average hipster are very different people... I suppose we'll have to see what crowd they're going after? I can pretty much guarantee this would just confuse my folks, and I have a lot of friends who religiously use Facebook, but they do so because it's not like this.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

joshryandavis wrote: post #74
artursapek wrote: post #52

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I hate it when design agencies try this hard to be cool.

Their audience is people who still use Myspace.

Isn't that the complement (in the maths/logic sense) of their target audience for the redesign? Surely they're trying to attract new users or those who've drifted/moved/run away from MySpace.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by anjc »

iamben wrote: post #86
anjc wrote: post #54

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"""But most of the people I know in bands use something else - bandcamp,soundcloud, whatever. Those who listen are using spotify, grooveshark, rdio, whatever. Photographers use flickr, instagram, designers use dribbble, etc etc. My friends all chat on facebook, twitter or g+ - the list goes on.""" Does it not seem though that this redesign seems to be hitting the middleground of this cluster of services? It seems lik…

For most things I don't want a middle ground, though. I want spotify which beautifully plays all the albums I want, when and where I want them, and does it well. I want to look at my instagram stream in bed when I get up in the morning, use twitter at work, etc. I have no interest in mixing them. I mean - my musician friends love bandcamp and soundcloud - why would they go back to MySpace when other sites are doing t…

You and I, and probably everybody on HN, know what we want though, in terms of the services we use. We're a niche, and actual musicians and artists etc are a niche userbase too, and they wont stop using whatever the hot thing is in their area (soundcloud, let's say). So without sounding too flippant, if Myspace can make the average person think that all the cool people are there, that's where the average person will go, especially if it's as accessible (in terms of the breadth of things it offers) and hip as the preview suggests.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by notatoad »

csours wrote: post #91
notatoad wrote: post #68

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Opera doesn't support websockets. I'm sure some socket.IO fans will tell me that's not a big deal, but it kind of is. modern browsers support websockets. and i know, this demo doesn't use it and will work fine in opera if you spoof the UA, but it's a lot easier to develop if you pick a feature set you're going to support, and skim out any browsers that don't support that feature set.

Or you could just use the features you want to use and try to fail gracefully when you can't. (Old IE could be a special case, as it is solid chunk of FUBAR.)

Sure, you could do that if you had unlimited developer time and people using old browsers are an important market. but that isn't always reality, you've got to choose where to focus your efforts.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by astrodust »

zalzane wrote: post #92
astrodust wrote: post #70

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Then their eighteen year old brother will flick them in the ear and call them a loser and a noob and they'll quickly learn.

When you were 12 years old, did you go out of your way to tell your parents/brother that you had a myspace?

MySpace was an exclusive club for "99-year old girls" to fawn over their favorite bands, or for older boys boys to post pictures of "hot babes" to impress others in their age group.

I'm not sure it ever matured from there.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by anjc »

iamben wrote: post #94
anjc wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. As good as the redesign is, the Myspace brand seems like a total dead duck. It almost caused a sense of panicked inner confusion in me to see such a pretty design followed by the Myspace logo. I'd argue with you about big pictures and slick graphics not being what the average person wants: I think there's been a big move towards having a sense of hipness to your online identity, e.g. instagram, tumblr, ev…

Haha yes, it would have been a whole lot more interesting under a new banner! I think your average person and your average hipster are very different people... I suppose we'll have to see what crowd they're going after? I can pretty much guarantee this would just confuse my folks, and I have a lot of friends who religiously use Facebook, but they do so because it's not like this.

You're totally right, but i think just the fact that you've said "this will confuse my folks" (it'd confuse mine too) shows that change has to come at some stage in terms of the dominant social network. Maybe Myspace wont be it but, Facebook just isn't cool anymore.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by luriel »

lordlarm wrote: post #48

As a computer scientist and an Opera user this actually insults me: http://i.imgur.com/7k0bN.png Ironically Opera was the one who proposed the -tag which this site uses for it's rotating LP, in 2007. [1] Way to exclude users. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#History_of_.3Cvideo...

The Web 2.0 craze is leading us back to the "Best viewed with" insanity of the 90's.

And is only going to get worse, with WebGL is not just "Sorry your browser is not supported, please download a different one.", but "Your video card drivers are not supported, buy new hardware and/or install a different Operating System"

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