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Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Maybe I’m not understanding, but why is that wild? Is it just the fact that those people lost jobs? If it were a justification for a re-org I wouldn’t find it objectionable at all

Perhaps I'm being uncharitable but this line "each person will be more load-bearing" reads to me as "each person will be expected to do more work for the same pay".

We’re not talking about an overworked nurse. Same Facebook-AI-researcher-pay is likely an eye watering amount of money

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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I just assume they over hired. Too much hype for AI. Everyone wants to build the framework people use for AI nobody wants to build the actual tools that make AI useful.

Maybe because there are just very few really useful AI tools that can be made? Few tools are ok with sometimes right, sometimes wrong output.

There are N useful AI tools that can be made.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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In India

The new head is Chinese. There was a screenshot on Blind of his org at Apple and it was well over a hundred nearly exclusively Chinese reports

Ethnically he is Chinese, but he was born here.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Why do you think it's wild? I've seen that dynamic before (i.e. too many cooks in the kitchen) and this seems like an honest assessment.

It's a meaningless nonsense tautology? Is that the level of leadership there? Maybe they should reduce it all to Wang, he can make all decisions with the impact and scope he is truly capable of.

... and bear more load as well.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Because the AI works so well, or because it doesn't? > ”By reducing the size of our team, fewer conversations will be required to make a decision, and each person will be more load-bearing and have more scope and impact,” Wang writes in a memo seen by Axios. That's kinda wild. I'm kinda shocked they put it in writing.

What are you shocked by? Genuine question.

I imagine there’s some people who might like the idea that, with less people and fewer stakeholders around, the remaining team now has more power to influence the org compared to before.

(I can see why someone might think that’s a charitable interpretation)

I personally didn’t read it as “everyone will now work more hours per day”. I read it as “each individual will now have more power in the org” which doesn’t sound terrible.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Because the AI works so well, or because it doesn't? > ”By reducing the size of our team, fewer conversations will be required to make a decision, and each person will be more load-bearing and have more scope and impact,” Wang writes in a memo seen by Axios. That's kinda wild. I'm kinda shocked they put it in writing.

I just assume they over hired. Too much hype for AI. Everyone wants to build the framework people use for AI nobody wants to build the actual tools that make AI useful.

They’ve done this before with their metaverse stuff. You hire a bunch, don’t see progress, let go of people in projects you want to shut down and then hire people in projects you want to try out.

Why not just move people around you may ask?

Possibly: different skill requirements

More likely: people in charge change, and they usually want “their people” around

Most definitely: the people being let go were hired when stock price was lower, making their compensation much higher. Getting new people in at high stock price allows company to save money

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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> while the company continues to hire workers for its newly formed superintelligence team, TBD Lab. It's coming any day now! > "... each person will be more load-bearing and have more scope and impact,” Wang writes It's only a matter of time before the superintelligence decides to lay off the managers too. Soon Mr. Wang will be gone and we'll see press releases like: > ”By reducing the size of our team, fewer convers…

> It's coming any day now!

I'm loving this juxtaposition of companies hyping up imminent epoch-defining AGI, while simultaneously dedicating resources to building TikTok But Worse or adding erotica support to ChatGPT. Interesting priorities.

Re: Meta is axing 600 roles across its AI division

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Integrating LLMs with the actual business is not a fun time. There are many cases where it simply doesn't make sense. It's hard to blame the average developer for not enduring the hard things when nobody involved seems truly concerned with the value proposition of any of this. This issue can be extended to many areas in technology. There is a shocking lack of effective leadership when it comes to application of techn…

Hmmm new business plan - RAAS - Rugs As A Service - provides credible cover for your departments existance.

And once the business inevitably files for bankruptcy it'll be the biggest rug pull in corporate history.
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