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Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

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Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#91

I too thought I found private messages on my timeline. But it turns out they were indeed wallposts. It shows how much facebook has changed from a friends-only environment where you used the wall of people for semi-private chats, to a place where you have to be carefull and try to present yourself in a decent manner. Noone would ever use the wall in the same way it was used back then.

I 100% think that this is what is happening. Before Facebook's chat feature became as prominent as it is, the number of 'trivial' wall-to-wall posts was very high, such as 'hey, what what you been up to?' or 'Thanks again'. These posts look like 'messages' because these days you would normally just send it as a message. So much press on this 'bug' but so little proof

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Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So TC have basically rewritten their entire article rather than add an update but anyway. It's probably not private messages - but it is messages that people think should be private TODAY. But it doesn't really matter - it's perception that matters here. And also I guess this is an illustration of how people's attitudes to FB have changed over time. "I would NEVER have shared this publicly." they say. But either they…

So TC have basically rewritten their entire article rather than add an update but anyway. There is no good way to answer "how do we correct a story that was completely wrong," but this seems to be a decent enough way to do it.

The correct way is a rectification. You leave the old story and point prominently to the correction at the top.

Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#93
post #80

This seems to be anecdotally confirmed by multiple people here. To me, if true , this screams of a broken engineering culture inside Facebook, where the model for data privacy and security is secondary, not primary. If this is indeed verified, no one should ever use Facebook for anything truly private, regardless of what apologies or excuses are made. It is difficult to think of something like this, where private ema…

It looks like it's only for old messages. My guess is that what happened is that they migrated some old messages to a new model. Maybe they had a mess of different old models, and some of them where converted to the wrong kind. I guess they were not careful enough with it, I just hope they will be able to revert it...

With any luck they'll start undeleting less-than-charitable picture comments I removed once the subjects of those comments joined Facebook. You know they still have them.

Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#94

I too thought I found private messages on my timeline. But it turns out they were indeed wallposts. It shows how much facebook has changed from a friends-only environment where you used the wall of people for semi-private chats, to a place where you have to be carefull and try to present yourself in a decent manner. Noone would ever use the wall in the same way it was used back then.

This is exactly what I'm seeing. I just spent half an hour on the phone with my friend going over public posts from 2007 saying "WOAH, did we _really_ say that in public?". Every one was public. There were no examples of private messages showing up.

Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#95

You know what's most interesting to me here? The tug between trusting my social network, and trusting FB and my own knowledge. My friends are ASSURING me that these are private messages. But every media outlet is now running the story that this is not true. And I have seen no evidence. So what do I believe?

EDIT: zevyoura pointed out that I misunderstood the comment I was replying to. Please ignore if not applicable.

Trusting FB? I hope you are joking. You are the product being sold & FB will maximize the value of that at any cost.

Its all one big scam: They provide endless privacy controls over what your friends can see, but discreetly forget to provide controls over what they can sell to advertisers.

Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#96
One thing I'm walking away from this incident with is a better understanding of the power of the Facebook PR machine. I would be interested in a timeline of how this whole process unfolded... too bad only companies like Google and Twitter will ever know for sure how it all spread.

Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#97
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty easy to redact a message so as to show they are the same message but without giving away sensitive info. Hell, some of these are probably benign messages like "sure meet you there" or something anyway. Your analogy is ridiculous.

Yes, but 'sure meet you there' wouldn't be quite juicy enough to satisfy the 'that was not private enough so therefore it wasn't a private message' crowd. With the way sharding works I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was real but only affected an extremely small portion of the users, and in such a way that stuff that had been pushed into the mists of time made it back to the present somehow. That alone would…

That's quite the straw man you're building.

You're asking me to believe what other people say without any proof. I stopped doing that when I lost my religion.

Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#98
(Cross-posted on TC)

These are all wall to wall posts. You can inspect for yourself using a Facebook Developer account.

Rollover the timestamp grab the POSTID.

http://www.facebook.com/PROFILEID/posts/POSTID

Example, http://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/11111111111

Throw it in the Graph API Explorer https://developers.facebook.com/tools/explorer with /PROFILEID_POSTID or curl http://graph.facebook.com/PROFILEID_POSTID.

The evidence speaks for itself, it shows up as a Status object.

You can push more with even browsing your conversation via

http://www.facebook.com/YOURUSERNAME?and=FRIENDUSERNAME&...

I don't think that private messages can transform into wall posts with such ease. This would have to be intentional, it's not a simple click of a switch that can do something like some are thinking that is occurring.

Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

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post #23

Looks like FB have confirmed that these were old wall posts not the messages. Something is confusing.

I can confirm that messages meant only for me were public on my wall and I have found messages I only intended for others public on their walls. They were most definitely NOT wall posts.

This may sound snide, but you should contact TechCrunch. Offer up your proof to them on the terms that they don't republish it.

Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines

#100

You know what's most interesting to me here? The tug between trusting my social network, and trusting FB and my own knowledge. My friends are ASSURING me that these are private messages. But every media outlet is now running the story that this is not true. And I have seen no evidence. So what do I believe?

Yes, in the end it's a good lesson about not trusting your memory too much and always trying to find proofs for what really happened.
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