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Post a screen shot, lets see it.
Well its public now isn't it. Isn't that the problem. What harm would a screen shot do. Can black out anything that is sensitive.
Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
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Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
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> And I've been looking pretty hard for the last 30 minutes. You need not look so far, it's right here in this thread. People are confirming some of their private messages set to 'friends' only to be world visible on their timeline.
And yet not one person has posted any evidence. Not one screen shoot. Which has been asked by a few people already. Show me the screen shots. Show me the screen shots.
Yes, random internet strangers, please reveal the conversations you specifically intended only one person to receive for the whole world to review!
Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
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This DOES seem to be anecdotally confirmed, but we're yet to see any screenshots of this. Pics or it didn't happen, folks.
Think about what you're asking for here. You are essentially asking to compound the error facebook made by making a screenshot of their private communications and posting it on yet another open forum. That's like asking a rape victim to show her bruises publicly or you won't believe it. Pics or it didn't happen applies to lots of stuff but when there are a lot of people with pretty good reputations making the exact s…
It's pretty easy to redact a message so as to show they are the same message but without giving away sensitive info. Hell, some of these are probably benign messages like "sure meet you there" or something anyway. Your analogy is ridiculous.
Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
#74If I could short FB I would do so immediately. The fallout from this is going to be immense and long-term. I'd imagine they are facing two choices at FB right now: 1. Take the site down and prevent any further leaks. But accept the absolutely massive flak that would come from that. or 2. Continue to let the leaking happen and try to hotfix the bug. Be accused of failing to get a handle on it, but perhaps get away wit…
"Update: Facebook Confirms No Private Messages Appearing On Timeline. They’re Old Wall Posts."
So TC have basically rewritten their entire article rather than add an update but anyway.
It's probably not private messages - but it is messages that people think should be private TODAY. But it doesn't really matter - it's perception that matters here. And also I guess this is an illustration of how people's attitudes to FB have changed over time.
"I would NEVER have shared this publicly." they say. But either they did, and now don't trust FB in the way they used to. Or they didn't and there's a bug. Neither are good for FB's brand.
Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
#75If I could short FB I would do so immediately. The fallout from this is going to be immense and long-term. I'd imagine they are facing two choices at FB right now: 1. Take the site down and prevent any further leaks. But accept the absolutely massive flak that would come from that. or 2. Continue to let the leaking happen and try to hotfix the bug. Be accused of failing to get a handle on it, but perhaps get away wit…
Probably the best solution for them at this point would be something in between, like hiding all friend's post on every user's wall instead of letting every user to that manually.
Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
#76For a community that is usually quick to dismiss anecdotal evidence and fear, uncertainty, and doubt there seems to be quite a bit of all of the above going around in these comments.
Given the update on the Tech Crunch article, and the fact this is regarding wall posts from three years ago (which people probably don't have the best recollection of) my two cents is for those that believe that this is affecting them to temporarily deactivate their FB account, and the rest of us wait until we see some follow up blog/news posts with hard evidence before we start yelling that the sky is falling.
Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
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well, that's because your outbound messages are on your friends's wall, not yours.
correct, if u go back and forth you can read whole conversations.
This fact alone may also add a bit of credibility.
If they were originally wall posts, your "threads" of conversation would be comments, not individual posts on each other's walls.
Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
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Wow, a few weeks ago I was joking that if Facebook went through my private messages, I wouldn't be surprised, based on how scummy they've behaved in the past. Now apparently they've done this, except also shared everything with the whole world. I don't think I have to say this, but this is totally, 100% unacceptable. Back then I was using FB almost as a personal e-mail; the consequences of something like this could b…
This is where someone typically parrots: "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place." -- Eric Schmidt; Executive Chairman, Google, Inc. To which I reply: I'm sorry, but my personal matters are personal _expressly because_ I've found people to be ignorant, bigoted, biased, or otherwise untrustworthy when it comes to matters of my identity. The fact tha…
And the obligatory full-context followup:
Q: People are treating Google like their most trusted friend. Should they be?
A: I think judgement matters… If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place. But if you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines including Google do retain this information for some time, and it’s important, for example that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act. It is possible that that information could be made available to the authorities.”
Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
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Think about what you're asking for here. You are essentially asking to compound the error facebook made by making a screenshot of their private communications and posting it on yet another open forum. That's like asking a rape victim to show her bruises publicly or you won't believe it. Pics or it didn't happen applies to lots of stuff but when there are a lot of people with pretty good reputations making the exact s…
It's pretty easy to redact a message so as to show they are the same message but without giving away sensitive info. Hell, some of these are probably benign messages like "sure meet you there" or something anyway. Your analogy is ridiculous.
Yes, but 'sure meet you there' wouldn't be quite juicy enough to satisfy the 'that was not private enough so therefore it wasn't a private message' crowd.
With the way sharding works I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was real but only affected an extremely small portion of the users, and in such a way that stuff that had been pushed into the mists of time made it back to the present somehow. That alone would qualify as a bug, the fact that facebook would shine the spotlight on old data like this is worrysome all by itself. If the data was private or in some other way hidden from normal view and suddenly given a much more prominent spot without the users being made aware of that ahead of time then that would be much more serious still.
For sure it seems that something changed.
Re: Facebook Users Report Seeing Old Private Messages Showing Up On Timelines
#80This seems to be anecdotally confirmed by multiple people here. To me, if true , this screams of a broken engineering culture inside Facebook, where the model for data privacy and security is secondary, not primary. If this is indeed verified, no one should ever use Facebook for anything truly private, regardless of what apologies or excuses are made. It is difficult to think of something like this, where private ema…
It looks like it's only for old messages. My guess is that what happened is that they migrated some old messages to a new model. Maybe they had a mess of different old models, and some of them where converted to the wrong kind. I guess they were not careful enough with it, I just hope they will be able to revert it...