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Why does this sounds so... Entitled? NASA regresses so far that they are now unable to do anything by themselves... Now suddenly there is a new moon race and they start pointing to a public company that is not sticking to a schedule. A company that does some impressive things, and has helped them out (probably not out of the goodness of their hearts, but hey), and is doing things they could not. I would be an adult a…
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But Apple didn't recreate the same mobile handset as Motorola or anybody else. There is very little value or scientific benefit in going back to the moon within the parameters of this mission; it's literally "do the same thing again".
What do you mean "the same thing"? Different rocket, different suits, and different budget. If we want to put people on Mars, we must prove we can put people on Moon, again.
It’s like saying visiting the marianas trench and Everest are the same because they’re both on earth
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It also ignores the fact that empires can decline. (Although I think the moon landing is ridiculous there is no scientific reason for it).
What do you mean "there is no scientific reason for it"?
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> We’ve already beaten China to the moon by 56 years, 3 months, and some change. And counting Of course, but there a few things to consider. 1. This is a new race. The olympics happen every four years to see which nation is the current best. It seems it’s time to find out again. 2. The last time the US was dominant was 56 years ago. That’s three generations. Based on SLS and the comments here, it seems extremely unli…
Do the Chinese view this as a race...? I've seen no indication that they see it in these terms. They've been pretty low-key about their progress. To me it looks like the US obsession with reframe everything in terms of a "new cold war". From the US perspective, in end you look stupid if you lose, and you look stupid if you just spend a ton of money to repeat what you did last time
China has always been insular, and they don't think about space glories that much at the moment. It would take a couple more generations for them to care about something like that.
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Space X isn't much better. Its still Musks company.
So, the company gets things done but the CEO is unpopular with certain crowds. Seems better than Boeing, which is bad at getting things done. At least their CEO is inoffensive, and that’s what is important?
There is just so much wrong with this from start to finish. Here are a few things, by no means inclusive: 1. We’ve already beaten China to the moon by 56 years, 3 months, and some change. And counting. 2. Nothing based around SLS is remotely serious. The cost and timeline of doing anything with it are unreasonable. It is an absolute dead-end. The SpaceX Super Heavy has been more capable arguably as early as the secon…
Not as criminally stupid as resting on our laurels and frittering away all the technical knowledge which we are now relearning the hard way. 'I can't think of things to do on the moon, therefore it's a waste of time' is an asinine argument.
Edited to add that I have long thought this dismissive smug attitude about how we already ticked that box and there's no need to tick it again directly contributes to the rise is nonsensical conspiracy theories like the the moon landing (or indeed space) being fake. And that acceptance of social and scientific ignorance goes a long way to explaining why we're currently governed by malicious fools.
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It also ignores the fact that empires can decline. (Although I think the moon landing is ridiculous there is no scientific reason for it).
What do you mean "there is no scientific reason for it"?
The motivations to send humans to other bodies at this time are political; to prove who is and isn't a superpower of the 21st century.