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Mathematicians have found a hidden 'reset button' for undoing rotation

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Re: Mathematicians have found a hidden 'reset button' for undoing rotation

#81
I had a hard time trying to parse something understandable from the article.

This is what I got from it (I'd be happy to hear someone informed correcting me/confirming). (excerpt from a discussion yesterday I had with some friends not too math inclined)

What it seems to be the articles claim is that, you could define a scaling operation in the angles you performed, finding some constant scaling factor (say alpha) and running the operation twice to reach the identity (rotation 0 compared to baseline), e.g.:

I = R ⊕ (α.R ⊕ α.R)

In their example that would be something like (with alpha=0.3):

I = (rad(75).X ⊕ rad(20).Y ⊕ ...) ⊕ (rad(0.3x75).X ⊕ rad(0.3x20).Y ⊕ ...) ⊕ (rad(0.3x75).X ⊕ rad(0.3x20).Y ⊕ ...)

Remembering that our rotation action is non-commutative, e.g. `aX ⊕ bY != bY ⊕ aX`.

Re: Mathematicians have found a hidden 'reset button' for undoing rotation

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neat factoid: there is something special about rotations in 3D. They are not "simply-connected", which means that there are 2 distinct classes of rotations. And this property is deeply important in quantum physics.

It's a bit more complicated than "2 classes of rotations", though there is magic indeed. I've tried to explain it in this post https://dandanua.github.io/2021/08/23/the-spin-of-a-human-bo...

Thanks for sharing. I'm very familiar with the basic mechanics of quaternion rotation, and I've been interested in a deeper understanding of this double-cover concept, but I just don't get it. I've seen the belt trick and it feels more like an illusion than an illustration of some deep truth.

I like how you've connected it to spin, but I still don't understand how that is a real physical property rather than a mathematical artifact.

I don't quite grasp the significance of your "different look". Can you suggest any other reading?

Re: Mathematicians have found a hidden 'reset button' for undoing rotation

#86

Quaternion libraries have work to do now. Positive potential: Simplified “undo” mechanism: this result suggests that a given traversal (sequence of rotations) might be “reset” (i.e., returned to origin) using a simpler method than computing a full inverse sequence. That could simplify any functionality in libraries, like SpinStep[0], that deal with “returning to base orientation” or “undoing steps.” The libraries cou…

> compute a scale factor λ

The paper shows that such a factor must exist but not how to compute it. That is currently unknown and non-trivial.

Re: Mathematicians have found a hidden 'reset button' for undoing rotation

#87
Reminds me of belt/plate trick and anti-twister mechanism.

The belt trick / plate trick / Dirac's string trick is nicely demonstrated in below video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EgsUDby0X1M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_trick

In mathematics and physics, the plate trick, also known as Dirac's string trick (after Paul Dirac, who introduced and popularized it), the belt trick, or the Balinese cup trick (it appears in the Balinese candle dance), is any of several demonstrations of the idea that rotating an object with strings attached to it by 360 degrees does not return the system to its original state, while a second rotation of 360 degrees, a total rotation of 720 degrees, does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-twister_mechanism

The anti-twister or antitwister mechanism is a method of connecting a flexible link between two objects, one of which is rotating with respect to the other, in a way that prevents the link from becoming twisted. The link could be an electrical cable or a flexible conduit.

This mechanism is intended as an alternative to the usual method of supplying electric power to a rotating device, the use of slip rings. The slip rings are attached to one part of the machine, and a set of fine metal brushes are attached to the other part. The brushes are kept in sliding contact with the slip rings, providing an electrical path between the two parts while allowing the parts to rotate about each other.

However, this presents problems with smaller devices. Whereas with large devices minor fluctuations in the power provided through the brush mechanism are inconsequential, in the case of tiny electronic components, the brushing introduces unacceptable levels of noise in the stream of power supplied. Therefore, a smoother means of power delivery is needed.

A device designed and patented in 1971 by Dale A. Adams and reported in The Amateur Scientist in December 1975, solves this problem with a rotating disk above a base from which a cable extends up, over, and onto the top of the disk. As the disk rotates the plane of this cable is rotated at exactly half the rate of the disk so the cable experiences no net twisting.

What makes the device possible is the peculiar connectivity of the space of 3D rotations, as discovered by P. A. M. Dirac and illustrated in his Plate trick (also known as the string trick or belt trick). Its covering Spin(3) group can be represented by unit quaternions, also known as versors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_rotation_group

In mechanics and geometry, the 3D rotation group, often denoted SO(3), is the group of all rotations about the origin of three-dimensional Euclidean space R³ under the operation of composition.

By definition, a rotation about the origin is a transformation that preserves the origin, Euclidean distance (so it is an isometry), and orientation (i.e., handedness of space). Composing two rotations results in another rotation, every rotation has a unique inverse rotation, and the identity map satisfies the definition of a rotation. Owing to the above properties (along composite rotations' associative property), the set of all rotations is a group under composition.

Re: Mathematicians have found a hidden 'reset button' for undoing rotation

#88

A series of rotations – a discrete walk (or continuous path) in the manifold of the rotation group SO(3) or SU(2) – can of course be inverted (starting from the end, find a walk that returns to the beginning) by performing the steps in reverse. Eckmann et alshow that, for almost all walks, there is another way: starting at the end, perform the steps in the original order (1) twice, and (2) uniformly scaled by a facto…

The article is 5 pages and the Theorem yielding the factor is on page 4.

Re: Mathematicians have found a hidden 'reset button' for undoing rotation

#89

A series of rotations – a discrete walk (or continuous path) in the manifold of the rotation group SO(3) or SU(2) – can of course be inverted (starting from the end, find a walk that returns to the beginning) by performing the steps in reverse. Eckmann et alshow that, for almost all walks, there is another way: starting at the end, perform the steps in the original order (1) twice, and (2) uniformly scaled by a facto…

The article is here.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.14367

Sorry, but the existence of such an inversion still is interesting from a mathematical perspective. It isn't "of much use" practically without the inversion formula/calculation, but that's ok. "There exists" is still a fascinating fact.

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