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Re: Doomsday scoreboard

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Post by noir_lord »

esseph wrote: post #21
zwnow wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea im not sure how a civil war in the United States would affect me as an European... It certainly would, but I'd survive. Isn't the whole point of apocalyptic events to not survive them?

Without US involvement in your Eastern flank, it might get tougher.

Europe would curb stomp Russia in a conventional war even without the US.

Ten times the GDP, three times the population and our military stuff mostly works, Ukraine has done a phenomenal job with what they had but Russia turned out to be even more of a Basket case than expected.

The problem is how much damage they can do before we put them back in their box and whether getting the shit kicked out of them would triggger a nuclear exchange which would get really out of hand.

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Post by mcmcmc »

mcshicks wrote: post #24

They seemed to have missed peter turchin "In 2010, Turchin published research using 40 combined social indicators to predict that there would be worldwide social unrest in the 2020s" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Turchin

When is there not social unrest?

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Post by iamthejuan »

kulahan wrote: post #59

One mildly interesting fact that MANY Christians get wrong: There is no lead-up to the apocalypse. The Messiah will return "like a thief in the night" and "nobody, except my Father, knows the hour of my return" (I probably butchered those two quotes). Either way, the Bible is pretty clear (as was Jesus): there will be zero indication the apocalypse is coming. None. It'll just... start.

Signs were given, not dates.

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Post by bloppe »

kulahan wrote: post #59

One mildly interesting fact that MANY Christians get wrong: There is no lead-up to the apocalypse. The Messiah will return "like a thief in the night" and "nobody, except my Father, knows the hour of my return" (I probably butchered those two quotes). Either way, the Bible is pretty clear (as was Jesus): there will be zero indication the apocalypse is coming. None. It'll just... start.

The homeless man currently yelling outside my window is an equally authoritative source of information about the apocalypse as the Bible, and he thinks it's coming soon.

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Post by fluoridation »

kulahan wrote: post #59

One mildly interesting fact that MANY Christians get wrong: There is no lead-up to the apocalypse. The Messiah will return "like a thief in the night" and "nobody, except my Father, knows the hour of my return" (I probably butchered those two quotes). Either way, the Bible is pretty clear (as was Jesus): there will be zero indication the apocalypse is coming. None. It'll just... start.

The book of Revelation also cites various signs that are metaphorical enough to be applied to just about anything.

It's pointless to cite the Bible to defend a theological position, because someone else can cite a different part that can be interpreted to say the exact opposite.

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Post by ipaddr »

marcyb5st wrote: post #33

A bit in the doomer camp, and what worries me the most are the lifestyle changes needed to not fuck up the climate in the next few hundreds years. I believe I heard that we should slash 7/8th of our emissions (as individuals living a modern lifestyle) to keep the wet bulb temperature in check worldwide by the end of the century. This is, in my opinion, a target that we'll surely miss and it won't be nice. Europe is a…

Serbia is a nice place.

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Post by bloppe »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #47

I think they've gotta maybe define what counts as an "Apocalypse." The active "Fourth Turning" hypothesis expects a crisis on the scale of the Civil War. That degree of crisis has happened lots of times. Certainly the Civil War itself was accurately predicted for decades leading up to it.

Agree. You can always claim prescience by being vague enough. "Something really bad will happen" will eventually come true. I suppose the point of this site is to call out the ones who dare to be more specific.

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Post by bloppe »

Sweepi wrote: post #63

Are the predictions from the 2nd and later IPCC reports in there? Last I checked they were on track.

But is that the apocalypse? I hate the fact that we're destabilizing the environment, but humans (and wildlife) are pretty good at adaptation. Our ancestors have obviously survived massive extinction events in the past.

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Post by Sardtok »

paularmstrong wrote: post #27
mcshicks wrote: post #24

They seemed to have missed peter turchin "In 2010, Turchin published research using 40 combined social indicators to predict that there would be worldwide social unrest in the 2020s" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Turchin

The way Cliodynamics, Turchin’s field, is explained feels like a very early and remedial version of psychohistory from the Foundation universe.

Have a look in the Fiction section of the Cliodynamics article.
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