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NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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This is the trolling equivalent of "embrace, extend, extinguish." They are mocking the people who believe it by amplifying it, making Trump 2028 merch, etc.

Haha, only serious?

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Tau Beta Pi is an engineering honor society with no Illuminati-style secret agenda. The only silliness associated with it is any concern over the "initiation rites and rituals".

That is what every society with initiation rites and rituals claims.

And the overwhelming majority of societies with initiation rights and rituals are not world-controlling cabals. Turns out people just like having rituals (and afterparties).

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Oh yeah. Replace the stainless steel by carbon fibre, give it to your pals of Boing and instead of being ready in 2030 for 2.3 billion it will be ready in 2050 for 50 billion. Much better for making your friends rich.

Space X isn't much better. Its still Musks company.

To this discussion, IMHO the important part is that he's fallen out of favor. He wasn't loyal.

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Wasn't Elon kind of treated like a child to be distracted and kept at arms length at Spacex? He is apparently really really good at fundraising, marketing and publicity (well he used to be anyways). But the stories that have come out of Tesla, and Paypal and SpaceX seem to me like the people actually running the show have tried to distract him as much as possible, and any of his actual decisions have been awful. I re…

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The one about PayPal and a switch to Windows isn't all wrong.

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Wasn't it to discover alternative trade routes and also to show physically that the world is round? I think they didn't know that there were usable land to grow tobacco when they started.

Humans have demonstrably known the world is round since at least ancient Greece. Columbus claimed it was radically smaller in diameter than previous calculations, and was begging for funding to go around the other side of the world to get a good trade route to India and China for trade goods. He was following some bad math, and adding his own worse math to the mix. People were sure he was going to die, because they d…

Amusingly, Spain famously did set up trade to China through the New World. Silver was mined in South America and taken to China (or to the Philippines), traded for silk and other luxury goods, which were then taken back across the Pacific, over land to the Atlantic, and then on to Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_galleon

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That was (for the western hemisphere) mostly to steal gold and silver from other civilizations. Oh, and to grow addictive drugs for export, like in Virginia. It was never done for other than banal reasons, although I'm sure pious rationalizations were offered to make people feel better about the ongoing genocides.

That feels like a bit of rewriting the past. How could someone plan on stealing valuables from somewhere across the ocean... before they know there even is an "across the ocean" to get to? It also feels quite off to reduce all of human curiosity to a means of getting one over on someone.

That wasn't the motivation for the first trip, but it was for continuing it all. It was driven by economics, as anything large scale must inevitably be.

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Tau Beta Pi is an engineering honor society with no Illuminati-style secret agenda. The only silliness associated with it is any concern over the "initiation rites and rituals".

Funny how joining a college club is more notable to this individual than “enslaver”

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"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.

I suspect the first people to sail the globe did so knowing the risks. I suspect if we reduced astronaut safety thresholds by a factor of 10, we will still have a surplus of high quality candidates for space missions.

Sailboats were pretty well understood by then and in contrast to rockets there is much less potential for catastrophic failure.

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This is a political deadline with no grounding in reality.

The entire Apollo program was a political stunt to upstage the USSR.

A political stunt for America to upstage the USSR, not to stroke the ego of a particular American.
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