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NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Post by vlovich123 »

jotux wrote: post #309
teekert wrote: post #266

Why does this sounds so... Entitled? NASA regresses so far that they are now unable to do anything by themselves... Now suddenly there is a new moon race and they start pointing to a public company that is not sticking to a schedule. A company that does some impressive things, and has helped them out (probably not out of the goodness of their hearts, but hey), and is doing things they could not. I would be an adult a…

>NASA regresses so far that they are now unable to do anything by themselves... I keep running across this perception and I don't understand where it comes from. Overwhelmingly, like since the 1970s, NASA has not built anything per it's appropriations from congress. Their job is to 1) Define mission requirements and objectives, 2) Oversee contracts to execute those missions, 3) Test and verify elements of those syste…

You mean the 1970s as in Raegan when the space program stalled and became irrelevant and became mostly a way to funnel money to districts for certain congresspeople?

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Post by mullingitover »

panick21 wrote: post #112

This is all just politics. Artemis from the beginning was just politics. And it wasn't driven by how to best do things, or any kind of coherent strategy. Its basically was a compromise, that had one of its pillars, that SLS and Orion need to continue to be used. Those two project have spend decades getting untold amounts of money. And even after all that money, their development isn't finished and they would need mor…

> The question the US (Congress/NASA) should be asking is not 'how can we get Artemis III' but rather 'what kind of Space program do we want over the next 30 years'.

I think the big question is "What is it going to do to the global standing of the United States (let alone domestic politics) when China repeatedly lands people on the moon and we can't."

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #331
jm4 wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The silver lining is that they are operating under the assumption that he will leave office at the conclusion of his term.

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>Don't be fooled by this pretense. MAGA republicans are already actively working towards getting him another term

Yes, he's in such excellent health, I can definitely see him living (and non-comatose!) long enough for that.

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Post by [deleted] »

oytis wrote: post #308
bahmboo wrote: post #227

"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.

America is becoming a silly place. Lumberjack appointed as a head of NASA for his loyalty.

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Post by reliabilityguy »

hermitcrab wrote: post #221
testing22321 wrote: post #214

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Elon just said starship will do the entire moon mission: “Starship will end up doing the whole Moon mission. Mark my words.” To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars

And he is super well known for making accurate predictions of the future.

So far his spacex track record is quite impressive

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Post by zzrrt »

cyberge99 wrote: post #345
sigmoid10 wrote: post #331

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Which will backfire spectacularly when Obama is re-elected.

I get the impulse and it would be amusing, but I have a feeling people are sick of "dynasty" Dem candidates for president (Hillary after her husband, Biden/Harris after each being VPs.) Feels like his legacy and appeal has kind of faded too. He was an exciting first-time candidate and good-enough incumbent, but third term?

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

colechristensen wrote: post #272
bahmboo wrote: post #242

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This is a political deadline with no grounding in reality.

The entire Apollo program was a political stunt to upstage the USSR.

It was a semi-covert program to be able to get to the USSR in 25 minutes with 150ktons of carryon luggage.

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Post by spankibalt »

aduty wrote: post #346
vlovich123 wrote: post #336

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He only cared about sending rockets up. Where they came down was other people's problem.

> He only cared about sending rockets up.

Which extended also how exactly those rockets were produced... and by whom.

EDIT: Yeah, I get it, the Zwangsarbeiter from the camps building the rockets are not very conductive to the carefully whitewashed "hero technocrat" image certain "hackers" just love to invest in. :T

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Post by mwigdahl »

tinfoilhatter wrote: post #323
oytis wrote: post #308

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America is becoming a silly place. Lumberjack appointed as a head of NASA for his loyalty.

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Tau Beta Pi is an engineering honor society with no Illuminati-style secret agenda. The only silliness associated with it is any concern over the "initiation rites and rituals".

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Post by electriclove »

ecshafer wrote: post #116
saubeidl wrote: post #78

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That is assuming Starship succeeds. Elon's track record hasn't exactly been stellar as of late.

Wasn't Elon kind of treated like a child to be distracted and kept at arms length at Spacex? He is apparently really really good at fundraising, marketing and publicity (well he used to be anyways). But the stories that have come out of Tesla, and Paypal and SpaceX seem to me like the people actually running the show have tried to distract him as much as possible, and any of his actual decisions have been awful. I re…

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