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NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Post by ipaddr »

thegrim33 wrote: post #252
bahmboo wrote: post #227

"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.

The Artemis plan was originally to return to moon by 2024, and the first crewed flight is still planned for next year, so it seems entirely reasonable for a President that's in office from 2024 and 2028 to want it to actually happen within that time frame. Since, you know, that's been the established and agreed upon plan for nearly a decade now.

Why not tomorrow if we are setting deadlines randomly based on a plan to go to the moon in 2024? They must be ready it's been a year.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

oytis wrote: post #308
bahmboo wrote: post #227

"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.

America is becoming a silly place. Lumberjack appointed as a head of NASA for his loyalty.

give him a little more credit than that, he was also on Real World: Boston

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WalterBright wrote: post #237
bahmboo wrote: post #227

"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.

Having a deadline is how things get done. With no deadline, nothing gets accomplished.

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Post by 05 »

mikkupikku wrote: post #307
WalterBright wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a deadline is how things get done. With no deadline, nothing gets accomplished.

Dead lines, political pressure to ignore issues and get it done, is how you get astronauts dead. Apollo 1, Challenger, Columbia. And of course Soyuz 1 and Soyuz 11 / Salyut 1; it's not just a problem for America. I fear it's going to happen again; Orion isn't safe and hasn't been successfully tested. The heat shield started to disintegrate the last time they tested it and instead of testing it again with their change…

To play devil's advocate, the only purpose astronauts serve is PR. Anything that can be done is space could be done cheaper and better with automation/rovers. So it seems that having those astronauts risk their lives for a short term political win is just table stakes, because the alternative for them is to stay on Earth and maybe pay $100K for just an hour in orbit with any of the commercial space tourism companies.

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Post by cyberge99 »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #331
jm4 wrote: post #313

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The silver lining is that they are operating under the assumption that he will leave office at the conclusion of his term.

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Which will backfire spectacularly when Obama is re-elected.

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Post by aduty »

vlovich123 wrote: post #336
oytis wrote: post #329

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Werner von Braun was competent though, as was Parsons. Being a little silly is fine as long as you can do the job.

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He only cared about sending rockets up. Where they came down was other people's problem.

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Post by coldpie »

Treegarden wrote: post #330
coldpie wrote: post #297

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> Isn't the entire point of SpaceX to go to Mars? What? No, it is to concentrate public wealth into the hands of one man.

The tone of voice suggests you dislike Musk, but I will still answer in good faith. From what I can see from the outside, he has consistently for many years stated the same goals and worked on them. Any or most financial gains he made, he invested into his companies which work on accomplishing those goals (for example, going to Mars). The most notable example was investing his PayPal money into Tesla and SpaceX when…

And all it took was ending public science funding and trust in public health and regulatory oversight and destroying the legislative and judiciary branches. Crazy how all the things it takes to get to Mars are also the same things that make him, personally, wealthier and more powerful.

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

Is this a corrupt, punitive attack against Elon Musk over the falling out between him and Trump? Is this based on a strong, factual basis? Who knows!

If Musk was still in tight with Trump, and this potential booting was based on a strong, factual basis, would it still be in the works? Who knows!

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Post by zer00eyz »

bahmboo wrote: post #227

"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.

> "The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator.

Im not sure the current admin is prepared for the risk that entails, unlike the last time we did this:

https://www.archives.gov/files/presidential-libraries/events...

https://www.discovermagazine.com/if-the-apollo-11-astronauts...

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Post by electriclove »

mmooss wrote: post #278
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #68

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> Is starship on schedule? Difficult to say relative to current Artemis timelines, which have to date been mainly delayed by Orion. They're currently looking on schedule to perform an orbital propellant transfer in 2026. That likely means a commercial launch before the end of next year, which is crazy. How that relates to HLS is up in the air, and probably will be until the end of next year.

> Difficult to say It's not difficult to say. They are behind schedule and everyone, not just Duffy, is talking about it and have been for awhile. I don't care - beyond how getting to the moon will help future space exploration - and risk is high when developing new tech, but I also don't care about SpaceX. It's very possible Starship won't work out; that's risk and I'm sure SpaceX and NASA people understand that. Wh…

It would be great for there to be more competition. But the reality is that SpaceX is in a different league - why focus on knocking them when there isn’t another alternative ??
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