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NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Having a deadline is how things get done. With no deadline, nothing gets accomplished.

The point you raise is implicit in the comment that you're replying to and your response seems to intentionally ignore the very valid point that a bad deadline in this context may kill people and have other very negative consequences for the program. What part of the comment you're replying to lead you to believe that the person you're replying to does not understand the value of deadlines?

With Trump, assume there will be massive kickbacks and corruption, most likely nothing useful will happen.

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"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.

Didn't JFK say something about going to the moon by the end of the decade?

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"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.

America is becoming a silly place. Lumberjack appointed as a head of NASA for his loyalty.

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Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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> I can imagine That probably does require some imagination. Starting with any incentive to do so.

Elon just said starship will do the entire moon mission: “Starship will end up doing the whole Moon mission. Mark my words.” To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars

I do mark his words. He also said he would revolutionize travel in LA (by reinventing the metro). He also said rocket travel would replace air travel. He also said we'd have a martian colony by now.

There's a website dedicated to the empty promises Elon has made. Can't find it though, anyone remember?

Edit: https://elonmusk.today/

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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Self-finance ? Is that what you call US government money?

Last years SpaceX revenue was 15 Billions, of which 1.1 came from NASA. Their revenues is higher than entire NASA budget. https://deepnewz.com/company-earnings/spacex-2025-revenue-to...

NASA Budget is 25 Billion

Re: NASA chief suggests SpaceX may be booted from moon mission

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JFK proposed we go to the Moon in 1962. We did it in 1969, 7 years later.

Crucially, not during his term (or his life, but that's irrelevant).

Also at the cost of a really stupendous amount of money.

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> I can imagine That probably does require some imagination. Starting with any incentive to do so.

Elon just said starship will do the entire moon mission: “Starship will end up doing the whole Moon mission. Mark my words.” To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars

if I had a dollar for every time Elon said mark my words and nothing was “marked” I’d be richer than him

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America is becoming a silly place. Lumberjack appointed as a head of NASA for his loyalty.

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Werner von Braun was competent though, as was Parsons. Being a little silly is fine as long as you can do the job.

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>To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars To occupy it. Just look at Musk's t-shirt. Isn't the entire point of SpaceX to go to Mars? Everything else they do is just steps in achieving the occupation of Mars.

> Isn't the entire point of SpaceX to go to Mars? What? No, it is to concentrate public wealth into the hands of one man.

The tone of voice suggests you dislike Musk, but I will still answer in good faith. From what I can see from the outside, he has consistently for many years stated the same goals and worked on them. Any or most financial gains he made, he invested into his companies which work on accomplishing those goals (for example, going to Mars). The most notable example was investing his PayPal money into Tesla and SpaceX when they both were at risk of going out. He also has a reputation for working a lot, though it may be exaggerated, but he looks fairly unhealthy so maybe not too far off. Compared to other super rich people, he seems to spend less time in lavish ways, for example on yachts or similar. He probably still spends more money than we can imagine on unnecessary things, but on the spectrum of rich people he doesn't seem to be the most frivolous. Finally, he has said on Twitter that he doesn't care about money but needs resources for his goals, for example going to Mars. And after everything I’ve seen and the examples listed, it doesn’t seem totally implausible that he means it.
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