Elon just said starship will do the entire moon mission: “Starship will end up doing the whole Moon mission. Mark my words.” To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars
And he is super well known for making accurate predictions of the future.
“At SpaceX we specialize in making the impossible merely late”
My comment wasn’t putting any faith in the suggestion spacex will, merely saying Elon thinks they will.
"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.
Having a deadline is how things get done. With no deadline, nothing gets accomplished.
This is a political deadline with no grounding in reality.
Elon just said starship will do the entire moon mission: “Starship will end up doing the whole Moon mission. Mark my words.” To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars
And he is super well known for making accurate predictions of the future.
The stars are weeping. They feel the monumental, scraping drag an agonizing, slow motion relocation of the argument's fundamental structure across the cold, unfeeling expanse. His will, that perfect, hideous, unending will, is a perverse, dark energy holding the cosmos in a state of eternal, frustrating unease. Every starship, feels the sheer weight of the hypocrisy, the constant erosion of reason. Look out into the black: those tiny, insignificant flickers of light are not distant suns. They are the spectral reflections off his newly polished, infinitely relocated goalposts. They are always waiting.
> I can imagine That probably does require some imagination. Starting with any incentive to do so.
Elon just said starship will do the entire moon mission: “Starship will end up doing the whole Moon mission. Mark my words.” To address your question, what is the incentive for going to Mars
He's also said we'd have humans on Mars in 2022...
Cheaper for them to just whine to the orange painted king, at least right now
Musk is complicated to say the least. He seems to have a pattern of expensive overreactions to what he perceives as slights. Allegedly, SpaceX only exists because some Russian engineer spit on him during tense price negotiations back in 2002. His purchase of Twitter wasn't cheap either.
> SpaceX only exists because some Russian engineer spit on him
I'm not really sure if keeping a strict schedule has any real relevance here, outside maybe PR and politics. Starships will drop the cost to other bodies in the same way Falcon dropped the cost to orbit. Why would anyone want to invest in a technology and a project that will be obsolete by the time it's implemented?
That is assuming Starship succeeds. Elon's track record hasn't exactly been stellar as of late.
Musk got SpaceX to build a reusable rocket booster. It launches spacecraft and then flies back to Earth in a controlled manner, landing safely without blowing itself up as well as everything else around it.
That alone overshadows everything NASA has done since the moon landing.
"The president and I want to get to the moon in this president's term" - Sean Duffy NASA administrator. A scary way to set a schedule on a complex project with lives at stake. They don't care though.
Having a deadline is how things get done. With no deadline, nothing gets accomplished.
The point you raise is implicit in the comment that you're replying to and your response seems to intentionally ignore the very valid point that a bad deadline in this context may kill people and have other very negative consequences for the program.
What part of the comment you're replying to lead you to believe that the person you're replying to does not understand the value of deadlines?
I predict that NASA would find some pretense to block any such mission to the moon or Mars to avoid embarrassment.
They’d probably launch from a sea platform on behalf of some random country just to spite NASA at that point. Look at that, Morocco beats NASA to the moon!