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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by CuriouslyC »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #221
jryio wrote: post #15

If you think this is useful... remember technology like this would make totalitarian leaders foam at the mouth. If you thought that ads are creepy, Atlas is a root level keylogger service. Why would you want an AI company scraping and recording all of your browser interactions. Yes Google already does this via Chrome. It's one thing to build a predictive model on your demographic, spending, location and income inform…

The solution seems to be the Apple approach, problem is that people don't seem to like that UX very much.

The problem with the apple approach is that it's fine grained and you have to restart apps for every change. I wouldn't care if nothing was allowed by default if when an app tried to do stuff it popped up the dialog at that time and asked for permissions needed to accomplish that task, but having to toggle stuff separately and restart the app each time is horrible UX.

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Post by doso »

doso wrote: post #242

Something's bugging me about Atlas - it's clearly Chromium-based (you can tell from the user agent and UI), but I can't find any credit to Chromium anywhere. No license info, no acknowledgments, and when I try to access chrome:// pages they're blocked. Maybe I'm overthinking this, but shouldn't there be some transparency about what you're building on top of? Especially with open source projects that have attribution…

Honestly, it feels like they're intentionally trying to scrub any traces of Chromium or Google. No mention anywhere, blocked chrome:// pages, UI stripped of references—it's as if they don't want users to realize it's built on open-source tech. It's a weird move for transparency and doesn't sit right with me, especially with all the attribution requirements.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by rs186 »

moralestapia wrote: post #64
blibble wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if I was Google I'd close up Chromium at this point and that would kill these AI company browsers instantly

Good luck with that. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/LICENS...

They could make chromium closed source starting from the next patch version while the source of old versions are still available. Currently there is only one company that is capable of maintaining chromium's entire codebase, and that company is called Google.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by n_f »

really excited to see what everyone will do with atlas! we really improved the agentic capabilities, both in terms of performance and speed of execution— definitely a step function improvement

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by verdverm »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #206
verdverm wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought that was more specific to YT than UB? My UB experience remains largely unchanged since the switch to manifest v3, I pay for YT to avoid ads and support creators directly.

"I pay to remove ads so my experience with a neutered adblocker isn't as bad" is a weird take. If you think the end game is companies deciding they're comfortable with removing ads in exchange for a subscription, rather than a subscription with a gradually increasing amount of ads, then I have a bridge to sell you. I support the creators I watch by donating to them directly.

I use UB for all the other websites, not YT, it's a weird take to associate UB usage and experience with a single domain.

> I support the creators I watch by donating to them directly.

Me too, on top of the monthly fee that gets distributed to those I watch. More for every creator, even those I only watch once or sporadically

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Post by oceanplexian »

Is OpenAI’s current business model to steal ideas from other companies?

CoT reasoning- stolen from Chinese AI labs, Codex is a ripoff of Claude Code. Sora is a low quality clone of Google’s Veo3. Like I thought Sam Altman’s pitch was AGI changing the nature of work not another Perplexity ripoff.

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Post by xnx »

mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

> So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet.

OpenAI probably barely knows or cares that Perplexity/Comet exists.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by StevePerkins »

px43 wrote: post #173

This Apple only nonsense is driving me nuts. I pay OpenAI $200 a month, and use Codex all the time, but just installed the crappy ChatGPT app for Android, and just use it from the mobile web browser, because it's over a month behind on super common features that launched on iPhone on day one. Same thing with Sora 2 being Apple only. What craziness is that? Why are developers leaning so hard into supporting closed sou…

This never has anything to do with open source vs. closed source, or anything like that. It always has to do with prioritizing the cohort that's most likely to pay money.

It's been shown over and over again in A/B testing that Apple device users will pay higher prices for the same goods and services than non-Apple users will. They're more likely to pay, period, versus free-ride.

As an Android user, it frustrates me sometimes. But I understand. I'm far more frugal with my online spending than most of my Apple user friends, myself.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by doso »

doso wrote: post #242

Something's bugging me about Atlas - it's clearly Chromium-based (you can tell from the user agent and UI), but I can't find any credit to Chromium anywhere. No license info, no acknowledgments, and when I try to access chrome:// pages they're blocked. Maybe I'm overthinking this, but shouldn't there be some transparency about what you're building on top of? Especially with open source projects that have attribution…

Just to add some official context on this, Chromium's BSD license explicitly requires attribution in derivative works. The notice clause says: "Include a readable copy of the attribution notices contained within such NOTICE file…within a NOTICE text file distributed as part of the Derivative Works; within the Source form or documentation, if provided along with the Derivative Works; or, within a display generated by the Derivative Works, if and wherever such third-party notices normally appear." It's not just good practice—this is a legal requirement. Surprised Atlas skipped this.

https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/config/+/refs/h...

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by oceanplexian »

tyre wrote: post #211
mlsu wrote: post #71

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yeah the custom GPT announcement was literally a carbon copy of steve jobs announcing the app store down to the mannerisms and tics. You could tell they were doing it to give VC and private equity the pavlov bell "ring ring! this company is apple!" and remember the sora announcement just a couple weeks ago? oh you guys are tiktok and instagram reels now too? cool... everything that openAI does is laser focused on val…

> everything that openAI does is laser focused on valuation valuation valuation idk it seems like a company filled with product and engineering where people are thinking of cool product ideas and shipping them. They don’t have to all hit, but it doesn’t seem bad to try them.

All these “product ideas” are an irrelevant waste of time if they actually develop AGI.

To me it comes across as them hedging their bets that the snake oil Sam Altman has been selling might not actually pan out.

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