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Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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I'm more concerned about Sora (and video-generating AI in general) being the final pour that cements us into our post-truth world.

People will be swayed by AI-generated videos while also being convinced real videos are AI.

I'm kinda terrified of the future of politics.

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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"Whether Sora lasts or not, however, is somewhat beside the point. What catches my attention most is that OpenAI released this app in the first place. It wasn’t that long ago that Sam Altman was still comparing the release of GPT-5 to the testing of the first atomic bomb , and many commentators took Dario Amodei at his word when he proclaimed 50% of white collar jobs might soon be automated by LLM-based tools." That'…

What signals have you seen that point to investment being predicated around AGI? Boosting Nvidia stock prices could also be explained by an expectation of increased inference usage by office workers which increases demands for GPUs and justifies datacenter buildouts. That's a much more "sober" outlook than AGI.

In fact a fun thing to think about is what signals we could observe in markets that specifically call out AGI as the expectation as opposed to simple bullish outlook on inference usage.

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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The fact that OpenAI is pushing Sora, and Altman now even hinting at introducing "erotic roleplay"[0] makes it obvious: openAI has stopped being a real AI research lab. Now, they’re just another desperate player in a no-moat market, scrambling to become the primary platform of this hype era and imprison users onto their platform, just like Microsoft and Facebook did before in the PC and social era.

[0] https://www.404media.co/openai-sam-altman-interview-chatgpt-...

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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"Whether Sora lasts or not, however, is somewhat beside the point. What catches my attention most is that OpenAI released this app in the first place. It wasn’t that long ago that Sam Altman was still comparing the release of GPT-5 to the testing of the first atomic bomb , and many commentators took Dario Amodei at his word when he proclaimed 50% of white collar jobs might soon be automated by LLM-based tools." That'…

What was predicted to be next: AGI What we got next: porn

Porn has driven everyday tech. Online payment systems, broadband adoption.

Porn (visual and written erotic impression) has been a normal part of the human experience for thousands of years. Across different religions, cultures, technological capabilities. We're humans.

There will always be a market for it, wherever there is a mismatch between desire for and access to sexual activity.

Generate your own porn is definitely a huge market. Sharing it with others, and then the follow-on concern of what's in that shared content, could lead to problems.

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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I'm more concerned about Sora (and video-generating AI in general) being the final pour that cements us into our post-truth world. People will be swayed by AI-generated videos while also being convinced real videos are AI. I'm kinda terrified of the future of politics.

Maybe they'll have to tour and meet people in person because videos will be devoid of trust.

On the other side we want to believe in something, so we'll believe in the video that will suit our beliefs.

It's an interesting struggle.

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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I'm more concerned about Sora (and video-generating AI in general) being the final pour that cements us into our post-truth world. People will be swayed by AI-generated videos while also being convinced real videos are AI. I'm kinda terrified of the future of politics.

Every breakthrough in information technology caused disruption in the historical sense (i.e. millions of deaths).

From the writing, through organized religion, printing press, radio and tv, internet and now ai.

Printing press and reformation wars is obvious, radio and totalitarianism is less known, internet and new populism is just starting to be recognized for what it is.

Eventually we'll get it regulated and adjust to it. But in the meantime it's going to be a wild ride.

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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Was a mistake from the beginning to use language as the basis for tokens and embedded spaces between them to generate semantics. It wasn't thought out, it was a snowball trial and error that went out of control.

Lol ok. We'll wait for your game changing technology, keep us posted.

OP has a point. Are these type of embeddings the best way to model thought?

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was predicted to be next: AGI What we got next: porn

I can't imagine the republican party is going to be particularly happy about AI being used for mass porn generation

prompt records = mass blackmail generation

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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post #15

I'm more concerned about Sora (and video-generating AI in general) being the final pour that cements us into our post-truth world. People will be swayed by AI-generated videos while also being convinced real videos are AI. I'm kinda terrified of the future of politics.

Maybe they'll have to tour and meet people in person because videos will be devoid of trust. On the other side we want to believe in something, so we'll believe in the video that will suit our beliefs. It's an interesting struggle.

Yeah I'm just as annoyed with the AI slop that's coming out as anyone, but the next generation of voters won't believe a thing and so they will be pushed towards believing what they see in real life like campaigners who go door to door etc. It could be a great thing and would give meaning to he electoral system again ironically!

Re: Is Sora the beginning of the end for OpenAI?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was predicted to be next: AGI What we got next: porn

Porn has driven everyday tech. Online payment systems, broadband adoption. Porn (visual and written erotic impression) has been a normal part of the human experience for thousands of years. Across different religions, cultures, technological capabilities. We're humans. There will always be a market for it, wherever there is a mismatch between desire for and access to sexual activity. Generate your own porn is definit…

> There will always be a market for it, wherever there is a mismatch between desire for and access to sexual activity.

Attractive people in sexually fulfilling relationships still look at porn.

It's just human.

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