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Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by AnonymousPlanet »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #112
AnonymousPlanet wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to recommend KDE-Connect left and right but stopped doing so because it went from rock solid and dependable to a complete disaster in a couple of years. Linux, Android, iOS, macOS all worked in harmony. Now not even two Android phones using the same software version can see each other, file transfers keep failing after a brief while. And all with the same devices that worked before, across various networks. No…

Some wifi APs block client to client traffic by default these days.

Mine does not. Same AP.

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by ognarb »

Flamingoat wrote: post #109
bityard wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience is that KDE 6 has very little visual nonsense right out of the box. 4 and 5 did have a lot more, but most/all of it could be disabled. Most other Linux DEs don't really let you customize them to your own personal level of nonsense at any rate.

I probably see a lot more than other people since I spent a good few years doing pixel perfect web dev. I am not being hyperbolic when I say that I can see a pixel out of place on a webpage on the other side of the room. https://kde.org/content/home/main.jpg This is a screenshot from their site. Just in this screenshot I see the following: 1) there is an horrendous text shadow effect on the text under the "Home" desk…

That screenshot is very old, for an actual screenshot. For an actual screenshot, you can find one on today's announcement: https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/6/6.5.0/

Btw as one the web developer behind KDE's website, do you mind telling me where you found that screenshot?

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by Flamingoat »

dingnuts wrote: post #111
Flamingoat wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arch has an installer these days. It works pretty well and you can have a system up and running in about 20 minutes if you have a fast internet connection. For people that want a Windows like UI, I would probably suggest Cinnamon. It works pretty much like Windows 7/10 without all the visual nonsense that KDE typically has.

Cinnamon? Really? In a KDE Connect thread? KDE actually was built around the Windows paradigm; Gnome is a Mac clone. Cinnamon is a fork of Gnome maintained as a side project from a distro with a bad security and management track record. Really the only thing it adds is a launcher; KDE optionally provides the same style if the user wants it. Go find a thread where your pet software is on topic. This thread is about KD…

> Cinnamon? Really? In a KDE Connect thread? > Go find a thread where your pet software is on topic. > This thread is about KDE Connect. Does Cinnamon support that?

In this particular part of thread, people were talking about Windows UI replacements. Like it or not conversations do diverge from the original intended purpose.

Secondly, Cinnamon isn't my "pet software". Cinnamon IMO is more similar to the Windows 7/10/11 UI than KDE and has none of the fluff that KDE normally has in it. I actually don't really like any of the Linux UIs. I think they all suffer from significant issues.

> KDE actually was built around the Windows paradigm; Gnome is a Mac clone. Cinnamon is a fork of Gnome maintained as a side project from a distro with a bad security and management track record. Really the only thing it adds is a launcher; KDE optionally provides the same style if the user wants it.

It seems that you really don't like cinnamon and thus why you are being so aggressive. I don't really appreciate the unwarranted hostility.

I don't personally use Linux Mint (I use Debian). I don't like derivative distros for the reason that you highlighted. However Cinnamon seems works reasonably well and tends to be quite a bit lighter than KDE IME.

> This thread is about KDE Connect. Does Cinnamon support that? Does Cinnamon offer anything like it?

You are aware that you can use KDE software in other Desktop Environments? It took me a few seconds to do a web search and it seems that you can use KDE connect and Cinnamon at the same time.

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by pmontra »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #6

This is a killer app. There have been times when I asked someone "why can't you just send me a screenshot on signal" or "Oh, can't you copy the URL to your desktop?"... only to realize that the poor fellow didn't have KDE connect (yet). It's not perfect, but it does things I haven't found anywhere else, makes your phone and laptop and pc. It might help that I'm actually running KDE everywhere, of course.

I've always run GNOME and KDE Connect port called gsconnect [1] works very well. I run it on several Ubuntus and on Debian 11. I run the KDE Connect app on my Android devices. That plus syncthing are exceptionally good tools to link all my devices together.

[1] https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1319/gsconnect/

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by jancsika »

The feature set commenters here want is insane:

* fast as possible

* LAN, but also WAN when necessary

* in fact how about multi-protocol, and use the fastest protocol that's available on both devices, it's 2025 people!

* work for sending a gargantuan amount of files with possible interruptions (essentially, be rsync)

* be battery efficient, it's 2025 people!

* don't rely on a centralized cloud server, just connect the damned devices to each other

If you think you can hack this together, you should write it for Gnu Hurd because they'll release that well before you're finished

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by sepsol »

bityard wrote: post #102

I love KDE Connect, it is insanely useful and pairs nicely with KDE Plasma. But I think it has some major usability issues. The two things I struggle with the most: 1. Sometimes (not always, but often!) the phone is not connected to the computer at all. In order to send something from the computer to the phone, I have to unlock the phone, find KDE connect in the apps, run it, and connect to the computer. I understand…

I second this, especially the second point. I love KDE Connect + GSConnect setup between my Android phone and Ubuntu machine, but the texting app is so laggy it makes the experience unpleasant.

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by pmontra »

maqnius wrote: post #88
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #6

This is a killer app. There have been times when I asked someone "why can't you just send me a screenshot on signal" or "Oh, can't you copy the URL to your desktop?"... only to realize that the poor fellow didn't have KDE connect (yet). It's not perfect, but it does things I haven't found anywhere else, makes your phone and laptop and pc. It might help that I'm actually running KDE everywhere, of course.

I have a all my messengers running on my desktop as well, so I don't really have those problems. How's KDE Connect superior? I'm seriously interested, since I read it's a killer feature but I cannot really imagine how it would help me.

I can share links to myself with a messenger but it's much faster to share them to a given device and see its browser open a tab to that link. It works inside apps too: I can share a video from phone to tablet (NewPipe, probably YouTube too, it's the Android builtin sharing system.)

I can also stop, resume, control volume of media playing on another device.

I can share the clipboard, send files, use a remote keyboard (I think I disabled it) and ping a device.

It can do a lot more but I'm not using much else, I think.

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by Flamingoat »

ognarb wrote: post #122
Flamingoat wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I probably see a lot more than other people since I spent a good few years doing pixel perfect web dev. I am not being hyperbolic when I say that I can see a pixel out of place on a webpage on the other side of the room. https://kde.org/content/home/main.jpg This is a screenshot from their site. Just in this screenshot I see the following: 1) there is an horrendous text shadow effect on the text under the "Home" desk…

That screenshot is very old, for an actual screenshot. For an actual screenshot, you can find one on today's announcement: https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/6/6.5.0/ Btw as one the web developer behind KDE's website, do you mind telling me where you found that screenshot?

> That screenshot is very old, for an actual screenshot. For an actual screenshot, you can find one on today's announcement: https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/6/6.5.0/

Those do look better admittedly. I still think it looks a bit "Fischer Price" but that is personal taste.

> Btw as one the web developer behind KDE's website, do you mind telling me where you found that screenshot?

Of course. It was on your screenshots page that I found via DDG

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=KDE+screenshots

The first result I go was:

https://kde.org/screenshots/

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by ValdikSS »

jancsika wrote: post #125

The feature set commenters here want is insane: * fast as possible * LAN, but also WAN when necessary * in fact how about multi-protocol, and use the fastest protocol that's available on both devices, it's 2025 people! * work for sending a gargantuan amount of files with possible interruptions (essentially, be rsync) * be battery efficient, it's 2025 people! * don't rely on a centralized cloud server, just connect th…

>* be battery efficient, it's 2025 people!

It took a long time for me to prove that what KDE does negatively impact the battery life.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=441830

The other user even wrote a LD_PRELOAD hijacking library to not recompile the application every time

https://github.com/max0x7ba/kdeconnect-powersave-keepalive

Re: KDE Connect: Enabling communication between all your devices

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Post by Flamingoat »

saubeidl wrote: post #119
Flamingoat wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I probably see a lot more than other people since I spent a good few years doing pixel perfect web dev. I am not being hyperbolic when I say that I can see a pixel out of place on a webpage on the other side of the room. https://kde.org/content/home/main.jpg This is a screenshot from their site. Just in this screenshot I see the following: 1) there is an horrendous text shadow effect on the text under the "Home" desk…

I agree with your assessment of KDE lacking "taste". Imo, it looks like a system designed by engineers, not designers. GNOME has the opposite problem imo. I feel like it has "taste", but it feels like a system fully designed by designers, with no engineers giving practical pushback. It's the same issue macOS has, but amplified: Designers have some grand idea about their vision being the one true way of using the syst…

> I agree with your assessment of KDE lacking "taste". Imo, it looks like a system designed by engineers, not designers.

TBF, I was linked their more up to date screenshots in a sibling thread and it does look more consistent but it still seems off.

> I currently use KDE, but am not happy with it for the reasons you described. I used to use GNOME, but wasn't happy with it for the reasons above.

I don't like any of the Linux DEs tbh. They all have issues.

I might give KDE a go. But I think Debian does a poor job at packaging it and I don't really want to change distros.

> I have high hopes for Cosmic [0]. It seems like that one might get the balance right.

I tried compiling Cosmic on source on Debian 12. I ran out of memory on the VM I was doing it on. I also found out that on Debian 12 their rustc was broken!

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