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LLMs can get "brain rot"

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Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"

#11

Isn't this just garbage in garbage out with an attention grabbing title?

Considering that the current state of the art for LLM training is to feed it massive amounts of garbage (with some good stuff alongside), it seems important to point this out even if it might seem obvious.

I don't think anyone is throwing raw datasets into LLMs and hoping for high quality weights anymore. Nowadays most of the datasets are filtered one way or another, and some of them highly curated even.

Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"

#13

Isn't this just garbage in garbage out with an attention grabbing title?

Yes, I am concerned about the Computer Science profession

>"“Brain Rot” for LLMs isn’t just a catchy metaphor—it reframes data curation as cognitive hygiene for AI"

A metaphor is exactly what it is because not only do LLMs not possess human cognition, there's certainly no established science of thinking they're literally valid subjects for clinical psychological assessment.

How does this stuff get published, this is basically a blog post. One of the worse aspects of the whole AI craze is that is has turned a non-trivial amount of academia into a complete cargo cult joke.

Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering that the current state of the art for LLM training is to feed it massive amounts of garbage (with some good stuff alongside), it seems important to point this out even if it might seem obvious.

I don't think anyone is throwing raw datasets into LLMs and hoping for high quality weights anymore. Nowadays most of the datasets are filtered one way or another, and some of them highly curated even.

I doubt they are highly created you would need experts in every field to do so. Which gives me more performance anxiety for LLMs because one of the most curated fields should be code...

Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"

#18

Isn't this just garbage in garbage out with an attention grabbing title?

Yes, I am concerned about the Computer Science profession >"“Brain Rot” for LLMs isn’t just a catchy metaphor—it reframes data curation as cognitive hygiene for AI" A metaphor is exactly what it is because not only do LLMs not possess human cognition, there's certainly no established science of thinking they're literally valid subjects for clinical psychological assessment. How does this stuff get published, this is…

It is a blog post, it was published as a Github page and on arXiv.

I think it's intended as a catchy warning to people who are dumping every piece of the internet (and synthetic data based on it!) that there are repercussions.

Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think anyone is throwing raw datasets into LLMs and hoping for high quality weights anymore. Nowadays most of the datasets are filtered one way or another, and some of them highly curated even.

I doubt they are highly created you would need experts in every field to do so. Which gives me more performance anxiety for LLMs because one of the most curated fields should be code...

OpenAI has been literally hiring human experts in certain targeted subject areas to write custom proprietary training content.
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