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The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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Link to what the upgrade looks like https://ykkdigitalshowroom.com/en/item/143/

This one[1] shows how the teeth are sewn on, which does look like it would be hard to do by hand (and impossible with a normal sewing machine). 1: https://ykkdigitalshowroom.com/assets/80006b690a9e47db1e62ad...

OK, finally I see why a new sewing machine was needed. Thank you! That's a sort of quasi-saddle-stitch, and one mistake in timing the length and 'phase' of the stitch means a broken needle.

Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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> When asked what zippers might look like in 50 years, Nishizaki doesn’t talk about smart fabrics or AI-assisted closures. He returns to YKK’s mantra: “Little parts. Big difference.” AI-assisted closures? I'm struggling to imagine a use case. Surely this is humor...

It's journalist-speak for "I'm current and tuned-in!".

Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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You can, but you (or rather atelier\studio) will have to buy a special machine to do so.

If these become commonplace, so will such machines.

I hope in case of success this will be just one of the programs in your generic sewing machine.

I'm afraid YKK might not be generous

Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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"The biggest issue with any zipper is snags. This design looks like it would be a lot more likely to snag, but maybe not." I can't see this new design solving that problem. Of all the day-to-day inanimate objects I've encountered I'd single out zippers as the most problematic I've come across. I cannot think of another device I've had so much trouble with. They snag, jam, the teeth fall out or tear out with little pr…

You seem to have... very unusual experience with zippers. I honestly can't remember the last time I had trouble with one or ever having any serious trouble with one.

"very unusual experience with zippers."

With respect, I think it's your experience that is very unusual. I reckon you must never go camping and use a sleeping bag with a long zipper or you wouldn't say what you've said.

The woman who runs the drycleaning shop near where I live also provides a garment alteration service and her main business is shortening jeans and replacing broken zippers! She even specializes in replacing long zippers on leather jackets as they break so often.

When they're such a bane for others one has to wonder why you have so little trouble, or how careful and methodical you are when using them, and or what type you're familiar with, what garments you have them on etc.

Can you honestly say you've never had zipper teeth part company with the fabric or never had to apply candle wax or similar to the teeth so they run smoothly? If yes, then you're a very lucky person.

Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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"The biggest issue with any zipper is snags. This design looks like it would be a lot more likely to snag, but maybe not." I can't see this new design solving that problem. Of all the day-to-day inanimate objects I've encountered I'd single out zippers as the most problematic I've come across. I cannot think of another device I've had so much trouble with. They snag, jam, the teeth fall out or tear out with little pr…

I think most zipper trouble I've had is with zippers that are too small for the job. I think really fat YKK style zippers on things like boots or gloves are wonderful. The zippers I've had problems with are usually small-tooth non-ykk zippers.

"…too small for the job."

Agreed, or they use plastic teeth that easily part company with the fabric as with my hi-viz jackets. The nylon loop type are usually much more reliable.

Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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I don't like "submarine" PR articles like this, because I feel like the author didn't ask any of the obvious questions around this zipper: 1. No closeup pics of how the zipper is actually sewed onto fabrics. 2. Is this design more likely to tear fabrics than a traditional zipper? A video another commenter linked made it look more fragile to me, but I don't know. 3. The biggest issue with any zipper is snags. This des…

"The biggest issue with any zipper is snags. This design looks like it would be a lot more likely to snag, but maybe not." I can't see this new design solving that problem. Of all the day-to-day inanimate objects I've encountered I'd single out zippers as the most problematic I've come across. I cannot think of another device I've had so much trouble with. They snag, jam, the teeth fall out or tear out with little pr…

I don't have much trouble with zippers, but I had a jacket where it broke. I had a tailor put on a new one.

Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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You seem to have... very unusual experience with zippers. I honestly can't remember the last time I had trouble with one or ever having any serious trouble with one.

"very unusual experience with zippers." With respect, I think it's your experience that is very unusual. I reckon you must never go camping and use a sleeping bag with a long zipper or you wouldn't say what you've said. The woman who runs the drycleaning shop near where I live also provides a garment alteration service and her main business is shortening jeans and replacing broken zippers! She even specializes in rep…

I don't go camping. I have had exactly one thing in my life that I can recall that the zipper broke on it. I think it really depends on what people are buying, how rough they are with their clothing, and many other factors.

Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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The fix is easy: Don’t buy new clothes from fast fashion brands or stores. If you only buy quality from small stores and independent designers you still get the same quality you got 15 years ago. Sure it’s 2-3 times the price but it’s worth it.

I try to buy my clothes from shops that sell to the trades/safety gear (e.g. brands like "Hard Yakka", although I guess that brand probably doesn't exist outside of Australasia). Most of these shops do a good line of cargo pants/shorts. But where does one get jeans that were made of the non-stretch denim that we use to get in the 1980s? That stuff was as thick as a tarpaulin (for those of us who are younger, tarpauli…

Stretch denim drives me insane. Not only is it much thinner and more fragile it's also just straight up a time bomb. Given enough time the elastic just deteriorates and you get super weird wrinkles all over. Not to mention that pants that fit just fine in the morning need a belt in the afternoon because the whole thing stretches out.

Re: The zipper is getting its first major upgrade in 100 years

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For everyone in the comments assuming these will be unrepairable I... don't think they will be? As far as I can tell this has zipper teeth on cord instead of tape. I don't see why that'd be impossible to hand-sew. It might be a bit more fiddly because it'll be more flexible. If anything it'll be much easier to seam rip existing zippers because you can just put the seam ripper between the teeth and cut the cord instead of the stitching.

The proprietary sewing machine does seem like it's not amazing competition wise, but if you think Chinese manufacturers aren't going to have a clone the second this becomes popular you haven't been paying attention. It'll basically be a sewing machine that does a zigzag stitch with a modified transport so the needle doesn't hit the teeth.

The one thing I do think is a disadvantage is that this style of zipper would put limits on how thick the fabric it's attached to can be. Normally the tape goes between the sides of the runner, but now it's the actual garment fabric. Might have implications for wear too.

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