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Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by 1313ed01 » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:34 AM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #78

throwing_away wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having often thought this is how I would attempt to monetize if I built a developer tool, I'm glad to hear that it's working. It makes good sense because companies actually have an absurd amount of liability to you if they violate your agreement.

Without telemetry, how will you know that anyone at all is using your software let alone only within the agreement of any licensing terms?

I am sure everyone making shareware in the early 1990's would have loved to spy on people to know how many used their software for free (and have a way to spam those users to try to sell more licenses), but they couldn't and just did without that.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by baobabKoodaa » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:37 AM UTC

gschier wrote: post #21

This is exactly why I made Yaak [1]. It's fully offline, no telemetry, open source, and can even sync with Git. https://yaak.app

This looks awesome! I've been wondering what to do with Insomnia since its enshittification.

One idea: since you are doing good-faith licenses anyway, maybe you could add in the possibility to pay for some kind of one-time license? I don't particularly need or want updates from my API tool, I just want it to work and not break. I would be fine with paying a one time commercial license that gives non expiring right to use a particular version.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by bni » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:38 AM UTC

Stop using Postman and its ilk. Use .http files.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by cucho » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:42 AM UTC

a85 wrote: post #152

Hello all, Postman founder here. I did not time this with an AWS outage of this magnitude but I posted about filesystem, git, and offline support coming to Postman last week: https://x.com/a85/status/1978979495836356819?s=46 Postman has a lot of capabilities now that require the cloud but there is still an offline client built in just for requests. Building sign-in and cloud features were not due to a VC-led conspira…

Please can you address the claim that Postman is silently leaking customer secrets to your servers as part of telemetry?

https://anonymousdata.medium.com/postman-is-logging-all-your...

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by throw_m239339 » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:42 AM UTC

ReptileMan wrote: post #54

I am against government regulation, but at times likes this (or your sous vide and washing machine requiring online accounts to function) the idea for regulations that mandate availability of local server for client server applications is alluring. And making all cloud functionality optional.

Or just use an alternative, and there are plenty of them in that segment, no need for the legislator to do anything here.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by wateralien » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:44 AM UTC

gschier wrote: post #165

EmanuelB wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently using Bruno. Saw your comparison. If Bruno has everything I need, what would you say is your biggest benefit compared to Bruno?

Faster, smoother, GRPC, plugins, themes, fully open source, no telemetry,...

Nice!

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by rmnclmnt » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:46 AM UTC

gschier wrote: post #58

rmnclmnt wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious to know more about the commercial licensing scheme for Yaak: if i’ve read correctly, purchasing a pro license if based on « good faith » as the features are exactly the same as the MIT licensed Hobby version? Sincere question, been studying lots of OSS commercial licensing and always wonder what works in which context

This is a conscious bet I'm making. Yes, it's a good-faith license. The license doesn't even apply to the OSS version (only prebuilt binaries). The bet is that super fans will pay for it in the early days and, as it gets adopted by larger companies, they will pay in order to comply with the legalities of commercial use. So far, it's working! The largest company so far is 34 seats, with a couple more in the pipe!

Thank you for your honest and detailed answer! Great to see it’s working so far and this allows you to build a true OSS product in the meantime, i really appreciate that (i think this is the biggest benefit of your licensing scheme)

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by lotfi-mahiddine » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:50 AM UTC

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Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by danparsonson » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:54 AM UTC

pjio wrote: post #166

Question: Do I miss something by not using Postman? My alternatives for development are "Edit and Resend" of a request (in Firefox) and plain old curl scripts for reusable examples.

Not Postman specifically but a client like that will allow you to prepare a whole set of different requests and save them so you can build up a test suite, plus some of them do things like scripting, chaining requests together etc. It's like the difference between a text editor and an IDE, so it depends on your needs really.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by a85 » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 5:55 AM UTC

cucho wrote: post #174

a85 wrote: post #152

Hello all, Postman founder here. I did not time this with an AWS outage of this magnitude but I posted about filesystem, git, and offline support coming to Postman last week: https://x.com/a85/status/1978979495836356819?s=46 Postman has a lot of capabilities now that require the cloud but there is still an offline client built in just for requests. Building sign-in and cloud features were not due to a VC-led conspira…

Please can you address the claim that Postman is silently leaking customer secrets to your servers as part of telemetry? https://anonymousdata.medium.com/postman-is-logging-all-your...

Yes. The post is misleading and we have more detail on what we do here.

https://blog.postman.com/engineering/postman-free-is-secure-...

Postman allows for turning off history, keeping variables local, setting up a local vault all in the free product and in more advanced plans, there are secret scanning capabilities for IT and security teams.

https://blog.postman.com/choose-the-right-postman-plan-for-y...

These issues are not unique to Postman and apply to all cloud products like GitHub as an instance. Products that are “offline” just shift the burden to the user.