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Post by hobs »

walkabout wrote: post #13
righthand wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well the Anti-Christ as a character and literal demon, mirror image of Jesus, etc is a misinterpretation of the anti-Christ attitudes/behaviour the bible is discussing. Which alludes that the end times are when people are no longer pro-Christ. So yes it is so crazy.

Why is a misinterpretation of the Bible any crazier than a non-misinterpretation?

Because the other people care about what you will do, not what you believe. Most recently the rapture folks stopped paying their bills, sold their belongings, and generally opted out of society in a mass hysteria event - and that's a small ripple in the overall system from mostly people not in power of the military industrial complex.

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Post by lordnacho »

ta9000 wrote: post #2

Or people are just seeing the real person. Before the filter was needed but now that views tangential to his are more mainstream it’s easier for him to let the full nut-job out. Same with the CEO of Salesforce.

I still can't decide which mechanism is at work:

Person is a nutter -> nutters more likely to be at the extremes of achievement (success and failure) -> you see the successes -> there's a bunch of insane people who became billionaires

versus:

Some people win at the success game -> they start to think they are special -> environment encourages them towards extremes of thought -> bunch of crazy billionaires

One way the negative traits are merely uncovered by getting rich. Other way the negative traits are actually developed along with getting rich.

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Post by righthand »

walkabout wrote: post #13
righthand wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well the Anti-Christ as a character and literal demon, mirror image of Jesus, etc is a misinterpretation of the anti-Christ attitudes/behaviour the bible is discussing. Which alludes that the end times are when people are no longer pro-Christ. So yes it is so crazy.

Why is a misinterpretation of the Bible any crazier than a non-misinterpretation?

Because it demonstrates a clear lack of understanding of the source material. If you’re trying to reach Christians who believe in anti-Christ behavior, then you probably lose them when focusing on the personified cartoon version of the Anti-Christ.

Also considering there are 7+ definitions of the word crazy, which one are you protesting Thiel represents?

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Post by eximius »

lordnacho wrote: post #22
ta9000 wrote: post #2

Or people are just seeing the real person. Before the filter was needed but now that views tangential to his are more mainstream it’s easier for him to let the full nut-job out. Same with the CEO of Salesforce.

I still can't decide which mechanism is at work: Person is a nutter -> nutters more likely to be at the extremes of achievement (success and failure) -> you see the successes -> there's a bunch of insane people who became billionaires versus: Some people win at the success game -> they start to think they are special -> environment encourages them towards extremes of thought -> bunch of crazy billionaires One way the…

Por que no los dos? They are not mutually exclusive, really. Perhaps the first skews the initial population and the second exacerbates it.

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Post by ls-a »

ta9000 wrote: post #2

Or people are just seeing the real person. Before the filter was needed but now that views tangential to his are more mainstream it’s easier for him to let the full nut-job out. Same with the CEO of Salesforce.

I agree. I think people who are criticizing him have similar behavior when it comes to their own beliefs, but they're hiding it from the public. What makes Thiel seem crazy is the fact that his behavior is slightly more mainstream than the average individual.

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Post by nchmy »

egypturnash wrote: post #19
lacker wrote: post #6

Personally, I'm not religious. But 20% of Americans believe that the Bible is the literal word of God. Is it really so crazy for one venture capitalist to believe that the Antichrist is real? Part of the freedom of religion is accepting that other Americans really do have religious beliefs that differ from your own sometimes, and that's okay. It doesn't mean you need to support the policies that he supports. But we d…

It's kind of hilarious when he gets asked about the whole "mark of the beast" thing and the fact that his entire fortune is based on implementing massive surveillance, and has absolutely no rebuttal . A man with this much power is incapable of anticipating a simple question like that.

sauce?

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Post by vjvjvjvjghv »

luckydonkey wrote: post #17
davidw wrote: post #8

The current iteration of Silicon Valley is just sad to see. I remember the sort of techno-libertarianism from the 90ies, and... while I didn't always agree, it seemed at least kind of idealistic. Also unrealistic, but it didn't seem to come from a place of cruelty or a thirst for power. Quite the contrary, they didn't seem very good at getting the government on their side back then. Now they have money and power and…

> Now they have money and power and use both in pretty obscene ways, like starving children in Africa to death by yanking the aid that was keeping them alive away. It’s because there’s lot of corruption in places receiving aid, look it up. Fixing problems is not as simple as giving someone money, there needs to be lots of accountability, which is often missing. There are fake NGOs and non-profits which essentially tr…

The solution to that corruption can't be to just stop giving aid or hiring your own (corrupt) NGOs. That's the whole problem with DOGE. Instead of taking on the difficult work of making things more efficient they did a quick hit and run job to cut things they didn't understand or Musk didn't like.
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