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Foxconn Shuts Plant as Workers Injured, Arrested in Brawl

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Wonder what this will do to iPhone 5 shipments... Probably a lot less than the perceived damage since this will start up another round of working condition articles in Western press.

The end result will likely be a shortened timeline for Foxconn's robotics plan. Robots rarely stage protests.

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"the fight had started between the rival worker groups in Foxconn dorms"

Perhaps they mean gangs? I find myself bummed out about the lack of assurance that I can obtain a mainstream mobile product (or, heck, computer-like product) produced in such a way that doesn't, at some point, involve workers in prison-like conditions.

Now I can't say with any certainty that I know for a fact that conditions are actually like this, but the rumors and stories you hear from China certainly don't make things sound good. What is one to do?

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"the fight had started between the rival worker groups in Foxconn dorms" Perhaps they mean gangs ? I find myself bummed out about the lack of assurance that I can obtain a mainstream mobile product (or, heck, computer-like product ) produced in such a way that doesn't, at some point, involve workers in prison-like conditions. Now I can't say with any certainty that I know for a fact that conditions are actually like…

Foxconn employes 1.2Million people. Their largest factory has 300,000+ people [1]. What city of 300,000 do you know that hasn't had a bar fight / civil squabble / etc? It'd probably be more reason for concern if these things weren't happening.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn

Re: Foxconn Shuts Plant as Workers Injured, Arrested in Brawl

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"the fight had started between the rival worker groups in Foxconn dorms" Perhaps they mean gangs ? I find myself bummed out about the lack of assurance that I can obtain a mainstream mobile product (or, heck, computer-like product ) produced in such a way that doesn't, at some point, involve workers in prison-like conditions. Now I can't say with any certainty that I know for a fact that conditions are actually like…

I heard a rumour that relying on rumours doesn't make you any less ignorant.

Re: Foxconn Shuts Plant as Workers Injured, Arrested in Brawl

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post #2

Wonder what this will do to iPhone 5 shipments... Probably a lot less than the perceived damage since this will start up another round of working condition articles in Western press. The end result will likely be a shortened timeline for Foxconn's robotics plan. Robots rarely stage protests.

I wonder what the outcry will be in the press with all the lost jobs, though. That is, if the US/Western press cares to publish articles about Chinese/Taiwanese employees losing their jobs.

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"the fight had started between the rival worker groups in Foxconn dorms" Perhaps they mean gangs ? I find myself bummed out about the lack of assurance that I can obtain a mainstream mobile product (or, heck, computer-like product ) produced in such a way that doesn't, at some point, involve workers in prison-like conditions. Now I can't say with any certainty that I know for a fact that conditions are actually like…

Foxconn employes 1.2Million people. Their largest factory has 300,000+ people [1]. What city of 300,000 do you know that hasn't had a bar fight / civil squabble / etc? It'd probably be more reason for concern if these things weren't happening. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn

When was the last time you heard of a "bar fight / civil squabble" that involved a reported 2000 people?

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I'm aware of the problems which have gone on at Foxconn and personally I do not wish to purchase products manufactured in that manner. The main problem is that as a consumer it's hard to distinguish between products constructed within reasonable working practices and other products made under conditions analogous to slavery in prison-like dormitories. So I think there needs to be something similar to "fair trade", but for computing gadgets.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Foxconn employes 1.2Million people. Their largest factory has 300,000+ people [1]. What city of 300,000 do you know that hasn't had a bar fight / civil squabble / etc? It'd probably be more reason for concern if these things weren't happening. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn

When was the last time you heard of a "bar fight / civil squabble" that involved a reported 2000 people?

The word for a "civil squabble" involving 2000 people is "riot." I'd be interested to know what sparked it.
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