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Kohler launches smart toilet camera

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Re: Kohler launches smart toilet camera

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Post by horsawlarway »

pixelatedindex wrote: post #4

Sometimes we really oughta ask ourselves if we should do something just because we can.

See - I actually think this is a pretty interesting idea. Stool/Urine are fairly solid indicators of personal health in a lot of ways.

But I think this is a product that probably shouldn't be allowed to exist as a standard SaaS/IoT product.

If this was a box I could hook up on my toilet that showed useful info on a screen locally - with zero network access... I'd consider buying.

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People are really glib about the loss of control relying on someone else's computer brings.

between service enshittification, company death (out of business), privacy concerns, and ownership contention (do I own a device if a company keeps keys to the locks inside it and won't give them to me? I'd argue a solid and resounding "NO")... I don't want anything to do with most modern networked devices in the form of IoT.

Re: Kohler launches smart toilet camera

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Post by mmooss »

Is it too much to say that I've thought that we could easily collect valuable health information by collecting data on digestion output. It mostly happens in just a few locations (unlike input), so it's perhaps worthwhile to invest in data collection.

I expect weight to be valuable, simple to collect, precise, and quantified (thus simple to analyze). Assuming excrement and urine have consistent masses, you would have good data on half of the food input/output equation, which could tell you about hydration and nutrition, the efficiency of fluid and solid digestion, etc. (Input is more difficult to measure.)

Density might also help; a sensor in the output pipe below might measure it after a consistent water pressure is applied.

For the OP, I wonder how sophisticated these instruments are. For example, using the empty bowl as baseline, you might automatically collect and quantify color data.

Re: Kohler launches smart toilet camera

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Post by stuckkeys »

hopelite wrote: post #27
1-6 wrote: post #23

Privacy issues aside, I think having a camera to monitor stools and urine color is an excellent way to gauge health. I hope the folks at Kohler can make this happen.

I have something called eyes and they come preinstalled and included with my system. I carry them with me everywhere. They are multifunctional for many other applications too. They do not have a subscription model either. They even come with a built in, extremely efficient power plant that produces energy for them endlessly for around 80-something years by simple input of quality biomatter.

lol. What about for those that are colorblind?

Re: Kohler launches smart toilet camera

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Post by fragmede »

hopelite wrote: post #27
1-6 wrote: post #23

Privacy issues aside, I think having a camera to monitor stools and urine color is an excellent way to gauge health. I hope the folks at Kohler can make this happen.

I have something called eyes and they come preinstalled and included with my system. I carry them with me everywhere. They are multifunctional for many other applications too. They do not have a subscription model either. They even come with a built in, extremely efficient power plant that produces energy for them endlessly for around 80-something years by simple input of quality biomatter.

These "eyes". Do they save data to a database? Is that database query able by say, your doctor with actual usefulness? What got logged on March 12th at 2:43 AM, 2003? Can you show it to someone else for them to analyze, or do they have to rely on your expert opinion?

Re: Kohler launches smart toilet camera

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Post by allears »

horsawlarway wrote: post #31
pixelatedindex wrote: post #4

Sometimes we really oughta ask ourselves if we should do something just because we can.

See - I actually think this is a pretty interesting idea. Stool/Urine are fairly solid indicators of personal health in a lot of ways. But I think this is a product that probably shouldn't be allowed to exist as a standard SaaS/IoT product. If this was a box I could hook up on my toilet that showed useful info on a screen locally - with zero network access... I'd consider buying. --- People are really glib about the…

I'd say this was pretty literally enshittification...
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