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Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by watwut »

Hizonner wrote: post #61
cvoss wrote: post #55

This is a very problematic choice and as much as I want to think it wasn't malicious, at every turn it sure looks like it's meant to be inflammatory. I can think of exactly one good reason to mark religious content as NSFW (under F-Droid's bizarre and very not normal definition of that word): To protect persons living in areas of the world where association with that religion is ruinous or outright dangerous due to p…

> label that accuses the text of being offensive Abrahamic religious texts, and a lot of others as well, are offensive. They clearly and directly glorify oppressive and/or genocidal violence in the past. There's a very strong argument that they demand similar violence in the present and future. They definitely demand a whole bunch of evil and oppressive social institutions. They're more offensive than hardcore porn.…

> They're more offensive than hardcore porn.

No they are not. Not unless you are intentionally taking in super weird definition of "offensive" or "hardcore porn". And I am saying that as someone who is not Christian and finds a lot of what Christianity stands for off-putting or even unethical. There is a reason people who want quick individual fun go for porn and not for a bible.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#142

Post by watwut »

mminer237 wrote: post #64
bigyabai wrote: post #2

The justification makes perfect sense. This Anti-Feature is applied to an app that contains content that the user may not want to be publicized or visible everywhere. The marked app may contain nudity, profanity, slurs, violence, intense sexuality, political incorrectness, or other potentially disturbing subject matter. This is especially relevant in environments like workplaces, schools, religious and family setting…

What Bible reader wants that fact hidden? That is the opposite sentiment of everyone I've actually seen. That honestly makes it seem even more illogical.

If you are in islamists run area, you want that hidden. For safety.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#143

Post by BizarroLand »

cakeday wrote: post #130
inglor wrote: post #4

Discussion of the merge request to mark it as nsfw https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/merge_requests/27861 https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/252 Edit - found more context: https://f-droid.org/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45409794 I still don't get it to be honest.

"authoritarian regimes" It seems someone at F-Droid may have a political axe to grind with the current US presidency and the majority of the population of America who elected (1.)them. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidentia...

majority of voting population

Don't get me wrong, I hold the "eligible but didn't vote" group equally accountable for the current regime, but it was not the majority of the population that voted for him.

"If "Did Not Vote" had been a presidential candidate, they would have beaten Donald Trump by 9.1 million votes, and they would have won 21 states, earning 265 electoral college votes to Trump's 175 and Harris's 98."

https://www.environmentalvoter.org/updates/2024-was-landslid...

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#144

Post by BizarroLand »

WolfeReader wrote: post #133
nathanaldensr wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I have read it, as have billions of others, and we don't agree with you. Your personal political sensibilities are not shared by all. For what it's worth I wouldn't flag any of your chosen religious texts either no matter what they were.

Do you read Ezekiel chapter 23 at work and to your family?

I wish I loved anything as much as atheists love gotchas

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#145

Post by 48terry »

bigyabai wrote: post #11
giancarlostoro wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like you didn't read the discussion at all? One of the apps does not contain any Bible verses, it is used to track which books, chapters and verses you've read.

Does it matter? F-Droid is a distributor, they're allowed to reject apps they consider controversial or outside their wheelhouse. The person who spoke up was correct, the ruling is consistent and the definition of NSFW content makes sense to me. Evangelism isn't exempted from being called and labelled as slopware. These people can perfectly well distribute their apps without F-Droid's help, they're not refusing to si…

You went from "the justification makes sense" to "actually they can do whatever they want neener neener" real fast.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#146

Post by WolfeReader »

BizarroLand wrote: post #144
WolfeReader wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you read Ezekiel chapter 23 at work and to your family?

I wish I loved anything as much as atheists love gotchas

It's easy and fun, especially since so many defenders of the Bible show themselves to be unfamiliar with its contents.

Also, maybe don't assume I'm an atheist just because I pointed out some of the Bible's NSFW contents in a discussion about the Bible being NSFW.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#147

Post by 48terry »

dvno42 wrote: post #103

This seems reasonable. The content includes themes (death, rape, violence, etc) that are generally considered NSFW by most modern day rating agencies. Just because cultures have historically seeded the texts for a long period of time doesn't make them SFW. If ESRB/MPAA had to rate a modern reboot, I don't think it would get a T/PG-13. Personally, I wouldn't want my kids exposed to this kind of material without at lea…

Would you agree the Wikipedia app should be marked NSFW? It also contains a whole lot of objectionable stuff, often with pictures.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#148

Post by 48terry »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #135
WolfeReader wrote: post #134

To all the people being performatively upset by this, please clarify your position. Do you believe: 1. F-Droid and other software managers should not have special labels or handling for NSFW content. 2. F-Droid and other software managers SHOULD handle NSFW content, but the Bible does not contain this content (such as in Ezekiel chapter 23). 3. F-Droid should not consider religious texts to be NSFW even if they conta…

> 2. F-Droid and other software managers SHOULD handle NSFW content, but the Bible does not contain this content (such as in Ezekiel chapter 23). Why pick out a tiny bit of Ezekiel when you have the entire book of Song of Solomon? Anyways, I think the more interesting tension is: What tag or flag would apply to the Bible that does not apply to the Wikipedia app? I have literally used Wikipedia to look up sex position…

Yeah, like, there's straight-up photos of penises and vaginas and naked people of all sorts on Wikipedia. It absolutely should be considered a NSFW app.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#149

Post by bigyabai »

watwut wrote: post #142
mminer237 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What Bible reader wants that fact hidden? That is the opposite sentiment of everyone I've actually seen. That honestly makes it seem even more illogical.

If you are in islamists run area, you want that hidden. For safety.

It's not just Islamists, either. Any religion can become extremist and support all sorts of internationally illegal crimes.

Evangelism is a danger to kids, and unfit for the workplace too. We should not encourage young Americans to indoctrinate themselves with nonsense propaganda that encourages killing.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

#150

Post by bigyabai »

infamia wrote: post #53
baobun wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That looks like an oversight that could be addressed with a PR targeting that game.

No, there are plenty of other examples (just in games alone) to write off as a mere one-off oversight. It certainly seems targeted since they've targeted religious apps that don't even have any explicit content. For an app store that is supposed to advocate for freedom this is disturbing and very off-putting. The answer is not submitting a PR to enable even more censorship.

> It certainly seems targeted since they've

Who is "they" here? The person who opened the PR? The person who wrote the NSFW definition? The moderators correcting the mistakes?

> The answer is not submitting a PR to enable even more censorship.

It's not censorship, you can still install the apps to your phone. You just cannot promote them to impressionable audiences like children, or pretend it is appropriate conduct for something like the workplace. Your same logic could be used to argue that porn apps shouldn't be labelled as NSFW, or that gore and shock content is free expression.

F-Droid is not (and will never be) compelled to host the tools of evangelism. You don't need F-Droid's help to reach your audience. I'm a proud F-Droid user and defend their stance wholeheartedly.

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