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Re: AWS multiple services outage in us-east-1

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post #494

Even though us-east-1 is the region geographically closest to me, I always choose another region as default due to us-east-1 (seemingly) being more prone to these outages. Obviously, some services are only available in us-east-1, but many applications can gain some resiliency just by making a primary home in any other region.

What services are only available in us-east-1?

Re: AWS multiple services outage in us-east-1

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post #395

As Amazon moves from day-1 company as it claimed once, to be the sales company like Oracle focusing on raking money, expect more outages to come, and longer to be resolved. Amazon is burning and driving away the technical talent and knowledge knowing the vendor lock-in will keep bringing the sweet money. You will see more sales people hoovering around your c-suites and executives, while you will face even worse techn…

>You will see more sales people hoovering around your c-suites and executives, while you will face even worse technical support, that seem not knowing what they are talking about, yet alone to fix the support issue you expect to be fixed easily.

WILL see? We've been seeing this since 2019.

Re: AWS multiple services outage in us-east-1

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It shouldn’t, but it does. As a civilization, we’ve eliminated resilience wherever we could, because it’s more cost-effective. Resilience is expensive. So everything is resting on a giant pile of single point of failures. Maybe this is the event to get everyone off of piling everything onto us-east-1 and hoping for the best, but the last few outages didn’t, so I don’t expect this one to, either.

No shot that happens until an outage breaks at least an entire workday in the US timezones. The only complaint I personally heard was from someone who couldn't load reddit on the train to work.

Re: AWS multiple services outage in us-east-1

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It shouldn’t, but it does. As a civilization, we’ve eliminated resilience wherever we could, because it’s more cost-effective. Resilience is expensive. So everything is resting on a giant pile of single point of failures. Maybe this is the event to get everyone off of piling everything onto us-east-1 and hoping for the best, but the last few outages didn’t, so I don’t expect this one to, either.

> we’ve eliminated resilience wherever we could, because it’s more cost-effective. Resilience is expensive.

You are right. But alas, a peek at the AMZN stock ticker suggests that the market doesn't really value resilience that much.

Re: AWS multiple services outage in us-east-1

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This is from Amazon's latest earnings call when Andy Jessy was asked why they aren't growing as much as there competitors "I think if you look at what matters to customers, what they care they care a lot about what the operational performance is, you know, what the availability is, what the durability is, what the latency and throughput is of of the various services. And I think we have a pretty significant advantage…

That was a bit of ramble. Not something I d expect from a CEO of AWS who probably handles press all the time.

It reminds me of that viral clip from a beauty pageant where the contestant went on a geographical ramble while the question was about US education.

Re: AWS multiple services outage in us-east-1

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post #487

US-East-1 is more than just a normal region. It also provides the backbone for other services, including those in other regions. Thus simply being in another region doesn’t protect you from the consistent us-east-1 shenanigans. AWS doesn’t talk about that much publicly, but if you press them they will admit in private that there are some pretty nasty single points of failure in the design of AWS that can materialize…

Yeah because Amazon engineers are hypocrites. They want you to spend extra money for region failover and multi-az deploys but they don't do it themselves.
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