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Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by akshitgaur2005 »

begrid wrote: post #100
altairprime wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From an App Store rating perspective, this particularly affects children, which leads to a much more focused question: Should minors have the right to install and use apps without parental approval that grant them access to content that is accepted to contain: > genocide, slavery, casual murder, infanticide, sexual abuse And if so, then what categories of apps are exempt from otherwise-mandatory content restriction p…

> Should minors have the right to install and use apps without parental approval that grant them access to content that is accepted to contain: >> genocide, slavery, casual murder, infanticide, sexual abuse Like wikipedia?

wikipedia provides a factual description of those, bible shows it as actions of a perfect god

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by akshitgaur2005 »

ajross wrote: post #69
madaxe_again wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it does , and explicitly - it isn’t a matter of interpretation. Repeatedly god commands his followers to slaughter men, women, children, and even the animals of their foes. Repeatedly god tells his followers to enslave people, and that it’s fine to treat them abysmally as long as it’s not so bad that they die. This isn’t my opinion of what the bible contains - any more than I could argue that Hellraiser is a cute…

"The bible is not a matter of interpretation" is literally, literally how you end up in religious wars. Seriously?

"I want to kill people and eat their firstborns", what interpretations can you come up for me?

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by Moomoomoo309 »

ajross wrote: post #23
madaxe_again wrote: post #10

I mean, yes, these are religious texts, but if we are to judge them on a level with other content, they absolutely warrant a warning. The abrahamic religious texts intersect largely around the Old Testament, which is a smorgasbord of genocide, slavery, casual murder, infanticide, sexual abuse of all flavours, and all the rest. I guess the question is whether religious texts should be exempt from content warnings, in…

Hm... that seems strained. The film got an R because of visible blood/gore scenes and violence. There's nothing controversial about that at all, swap the script with an explicitly atheist one that rejects the divinity of Christ and crucifies a 100% mortal man in exactly the same way and you'd get an obvious R, because crucifixion is a violent act absent of any context. And if you really want to go with the old testam…

Uncle Tom's cabin actually should be banned based on their rules, but not because of its depiction of slavery, for the ending, where Uncle Tom refuses to rat out the slave women he helped escape and in turn is brutally whipped to death, whilst forgiving those who are whipping him. The violence and gore in the ending is enough regardless of the rest of the book.

Aside: If you've never read it, the depiction of that book in media has been corrupted by the racist "Tom Shows" in the south from the 19th and 20th century that painted Uncle Tom as a weak, pathetic man who betrayed his people, when really, he was a 20-something year old man in peak physical condition who chose to die rather than selling out the people he tried to help.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by trallnag »

cvoss wrote: post #55

This is a very problematic choice and as much as I want to think it wasn't malicious, at every turn it sure looks like it's meant to be inflammatory. I can think of exactly one good reason to mark religious content as NSFW (under F-Droid's bizarre and very not normal definition of that word): To protect persons living in areas of the world where association with that religion is ruinous or outright dangerous due to p…

What about religious content of pornographic nature?

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by constantcrying »

Oh well. To be honest I was pretty disappointed that Google was going after them, but the writing seems to be on the wall. With behavior like this, I do not even want to use their software at all.

Android has been going more and more to shit anyways. The best part was always that you could escape Google, but that option seems to be closing down.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by giancarlostoro »

mvdtnz wrote: post #79
giancarlostoro wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is my issue with it as well, but also, why did the PR only target Bible apps? Seemingly in a very lazy way at that. Had they taken time to understand how each app works and its purpose, they would have only flagged apps that contain the Bible itself. I would hope reddit and other apps that actually contain graphic NSFW content are next?

The only merge request you've seen targets bible apps. How do you know this isn't one part of a larger effort to correctly mark apps? Maybe they've tackled other categories previously, or had intended to tackle other categories going forward. The fact that bible apps is included in one wave of markings doesn't mean only bible apps are affected.

Other examples were provided in the PR, I see no other PRs. Why was the PR only focused on them? I doubt we'll see additional PRs for other apps.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by array_key_first »

cvoss wrote: post #55

This is a very problematic choice and as much as I want to think it wasn't malicious, at every turn it sure looks like it's meant to be inflammatory. I can think of exactly one good reason to mark religious content as NSFW (under F-Droid's bizarre and very not normal definition of that word): To protect persons living in areas of the world where association with that religion is ruinous or outright dangerous due to p…

Most religious texts are NSFW in the most literal interpretation. They contain violence and rape in great detail.

Which is fine, but it is just NSFW.

Re: Bible and Quran apps flagged NSFW by F-Droid

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Post by pyuser583 »

orwin wrote: post #70
cvoss wrote: post #55

This is a very problematic choice and as much as I want to think it wasn't malicious, at every turn it sure looks like it's meant to be inflammatory. I can think of exactly one good reason to mark religious content as NSFW (under F-Droid's bizarre and very not normal definition of that word): To protect persons living in areas of the world where association with that religion is ruinous or outright dangerous due to p…

The old testament has depiction of rape and violence. If the new testaments is also tagged nsfw though, I'll claim that their sensitivity is too high.

Revelations is pretty metal.
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