Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1) • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by darkstalker » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 1:22 AM UTC

dimitar wrote: post #2

Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

I've always disliked this current trend on how people values the quality of software by speed and "responsiveness", disregarding all other features.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by shmerl » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 1:37 AM UTC

History of Mozilla UI:

http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.andrewturnbull.net/moz...

History of Mozilla mascot:

http://www.davetitus.com/mozilla/

Archive of old browsers and original Mcom.com site:

http://www.jwz.org/blog/2008/03/happy-run-some-old-web-brows...

http://home.mcom.com/archives/

http://home.mcom.com

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by dain » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 1:46 AM UTC

Second line down "earch" should be "Search", in case anyone at Mozilla is reading this.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by joneil » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 3:04 AM UTC

I started using Phoenix at v0.3 and remember just how "new" it felt. At the time I was still running Windows (maybe even 98?) and was experimenting with Linux, but hated the netscape/mozilla options. Phoenix was fast, had tabs, a popup blocker, and no ads (unlike Opera). I was a proud user then, and I think they've done remarkably well given the massive competition from three commercial software giants - I'm still a happy user today. Well done Mozilla.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by nsns » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 5:42 AM UTC

Congratulations! A toast to one of the most prominent (and, alas, one of the last, with Wikipedia) non-consumerist-centered tools of the web.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by dave1010uk » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 6:43 AM UTC

tree_of_item wrote: post #20

>You said this is a lean, lightweight browser, but it's 8MB! I laugh at your silly lies! >Take it easy, sport. Phoenix has many files that override those in Mozilla, but it also has a new set of files. These files render a ton of files in Mozilla unnecessary, but we haven't yet stopped packaging the old files. It also still contains the modern theme and all the composer UI. In short, we haven't done any work yet to m…

Firefox is currently 17MB. It's pretty amazing that that size includes (off tge top of my head): JavaScript interpreter/compiler, HTML4 & 5 parser, XML parser, CSS parser, graphics engine, layout engine, WebGL, lots of typographical features, plugin API, extension API, DOM, BOM, developer tools.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by starik36 » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 7:08 AM UTC

I remember installing it for the first time and it felt just right. The other browsers at the time (Mozilla Suite, Netscape 6.x, IE) just felt so bulky.

You could tell right away that this software was going to go places.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by ww520 » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 7:14 AM UTC

dave1010uk wrote: post #26

tree_of_item wrote: post #20

>You said this is a lean, lightweight browser, but it's 8MB! I laugh at your silly lies! >Take it easy, sport. Phoenix has many files that override those in Mozilla, but it also has a new set of files. These files render a ton of files in Mozilla unnecessary, but we haven't yet stopped packaging the old files. It also still contains the modern theme and all the composer UI. In short, we haven't done any work yet to m…

Firefox is currently 17MB. It's pretty amazing that that size includes (off tge top of my head): JavaScript interpreter/compiler, HTML4 & 5 parser, XML parser, CSS parser, graphics engine, layout engine, WebGL, lots of typographical features, plugin API, extension API, DOM, BOM, developer tools.

Plus Sqlite.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by yenoham » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 7:36 AM UTC

I never thought I'd get to a time where web browser milestones began to make me feel old.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 24, 2012, 7:54 AM UTC

shmerl wrote: post #22

History of Mozilla UI: http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.andrewturnbull.net/moz... http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.andrewturnbull.net/moz... http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.andrewturnbull.net/moz... http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.andrewturnbull.net/moz... History of Mozilla mascot: http://www.davetitus.com/mozilla/ Archive of old browsers and original Mcom.com site: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2008…

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