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New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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Makes me proud to be a kiwi. Aside from the initial raid, I think the systems have held up well despite lots of 'international pressure'

Aside from the initial raid, and the illegal surveillance, and the invalid warrants, and the illegal seizure of evidence. Sure.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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Makes me proud to be a kiwi. Aside from the initial raid, I think the systems have held up well despite lots of 'international pressure'

really? NZ should never have gone along with it - just trying to please the US.

That's what I hate about my country right now. We're seemingly bending over to all the whims of the US. Not cool. We're supposed to be independent little hobbits, not getting in the affairs of things that don't concern us.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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The sad thing isn't that we found out they used an illegal warrant, they had suspicious motives, or used illegal wiretapping, but that this comes out purely because this is such a public case. Just think if so much shady business goes on in a case they know will be high profile, how widespread and commonplace these practices must be all around. How many other cases we won't ever hear about because they aren't so scru…

See also MP John Banks' “I can only help you if your donations to me are anonymous” to Dotcom. This case is making public a whole lot of what looks like routine corruption.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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The sad thing isn't that we found out they used an illegal warrant, they had suspicious motives, or used illegal wiretapping, but that this comes out purely because this is such a public case. Just think if so much shady business goes on in a case they know will be high profile, how widespread and commonplace these practices must be all around. How many other cases we won't ever hear about because they aren't so scru…

See also MP John Banks' “I can only help you if your donations to me are anonymous” to Dotcom. This case is making public a whole lot of what looks like routine corruption.

Yet NZ is supposed to have next to no corruption. OK...

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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Makes me proud to be a kiwi. Aside from the initial raid, I think the systems have held up well despite lots of 'international pressure'

Unlawful actions make you proud to be a Kiwi? This whole ordeal reminds me of the BP oil spill, sure they'll help clean up, but lets not ignore what lead us to this situation in the first place.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

See also MP John Banks' “I can only help you if your donations to me are anonymous” to Dotcom. This case is making public a whole lot of what looks like routine corruption.

Yet NZ is supposed to have next to no corruption. OK... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Same goes for Sweden with their totally non-corrupt investigator who just happen to get a high paying job from one of the parties days after the case.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

really? NZ should never have gone along with it - just trying to please the US.

That's what I hate about my country right now. We're seemingly bending over to all the whims of the US. Not cool. We're supposed to be independent little hobbits, not getting in the affairs of things that don't concern us.

I found the John Campbell interview the hardest to watch. after most of his interview he hits him with "...are you a very a naughty man?"

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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It is great to see that there are still "somewhere" in the world high level politicians who take these kind of things seriously. Judging by the coziness of the US administration with the Entertainment industry and its lacking willingness to clean up issues such as the Fast and Furious/AFT gunwalking scandal, I very much doubt that this would have happened in the US.

It's worth noting that in NZ, the Prime Minister is also the Minister overseeing the GCSB. He has to sign off on all surveillance warrants, too. So at the very least it's a huge and public failure in his department; at the worst, he's complicit in illegal surveillance. It's yet to be seen what his involvement is, but his whole involvement in this case has reeked of ass-covering and distancing. It'll be interesting to…

As Sir Humphrey Appleby says, never hold an inquiry unless you know what its outcome will be.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See also MP John Banks' “I can only help you if your donations to me are anonymous” to Dotcom. This case is making public a whole lot of what looks like routine corruption.

Yet NZ is supposed to have next to no corruption. OK... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

It's funny. I know of numerous cases of borderline corruption here. They may be legit, but they sure as hell run close to the line. I struggle to imaging what happens in a country considered to be 'actually corrupt'.
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