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Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by arrrg »

mindstab wrote: post #12
MBCook wrote: post #7

I did, and I'm glad. The maps thing is unfortunate, but I'm sure it will get better. In the mean time you can still use maps.google.com and I'm sure Google will release their own app some day. Bits of the system feel faster, but I can say that Music got a massive speed improvement. I have a playlist of over 5k songs that I like to listen to shuffled. On iOS 5.1, opening that playlist for the first time would take two…

> the maps thing is unfortunate, but I'm sure it will get better Based on what? The problem in the first place is that this is an insanely hard problem that is in the centre of Google's core competencies (data gathering, search, data munching; all on a ridiculously massive scale). Apple makes hardware and an operating system and some apps for it. Where in that set of core competencies does it indicate they have what…

1) It's not a complete disaster. It has loads of problems, but in general it's very usable.

2) During the beta phase maps improved rapidly. It was not usable a few months ago. Now it is.

So it's not all bad and there already has been massive progress. I think in one year no one will care about this issue anymore. Google Maps will always be better, but the difference will become small enough that no one cares.

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by slig »

kmfrk wrote: post #4

Well, what features do people here think are worth the upgrade? I for one like the new privacy settings. Passbook could be really interesting, but I think it'll be well over a year, before people in my country consider taking advantage of it.

I watch coursera classes on my iPad 3. Before, a 10 minute video was using 5~9% of the battery. On iOS6 it goes down 1%, 2% at max.

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by jonknee »

cma wrote: post #14
mambodog wrote: post #9

I'm guessing the Google Maps app will be out in a month or two. Apple probably won't approve it right away, as a good quality Maps app would really make Google look like the hero, swooping in to save us from Apple's lesser service. Once the response to iOS6 has blown over it'll turn up in the App Store, lots of people will download it, and things will be more or less back to normal (apart from the bruising to Apple's…

Apple already rejected Google Maps in the past in the form of Latitude.

Apple did eventually reverse themselves on this, but here's the original blog post from Google about it (they originally supported iOS through Mobile Safari because of Apple's rejection).

http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/07/google-latitude-now...

> We worked closely with Apple to bring Latitude to the iPhone in a way Apple thought would be best for iPhone users. After we developed a Latitude application for the iPhone, Apple requested we release Latitude as a web application in order to avoid confusion with Maps on the iPhone, which uses Google to serve maps tiles.

It took almost two years for Apple to cave.

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by jonknee »

rangibaby wrote: post #8

I haven't found any show-stopping or even new bugs yet with normal usage since the update came out. The new iPod app looks and feels quite nice. Just go ahead and upgrade; you'll end up wanting some iOS6 feature / app eventually, might as well get it out of the way now.

Unless you rely on an obscure feature like transit directions that is.

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by juriga »

asparagui wrote: post #3

Honestly, and this applies to all updates on any system: wait a month. Developers will move over their apps. Any major bugs will be found and shook out. Stackoverflow/blogs will be populated with answers on "how do I do $thing_that_has_changed"? And B, upgrade a non-essential machine first. The only thing you gain by upgrading willy-nilly is Internet e-peen points, and after a while you realize those aren't worth los…

I agree, being an early adopter always means that you should prepare yourself for issues. However:

> Developers will move over their apps. Any major bugs will be found and shook out.

Wasn't this why the iOS6 beta versions were released months before the final release? Now that iOS6 is officially released, Apple is encouraging all users to update and there are quite many average Joes and Janes who don't read the tech press and these warnings. These users are the ones that face the most confusion if something is missing or changed (YouTube, Maps).

Since I installed the update as soon it was available, I don't have first-hand experience of when users are prompted to update. Based on previous experience and some update guides[1], the prompt will appear automatically when connecting to iTunes.

[1] http://ipad.about.com/od/iPad_Guide/ss/How-To-Upgrade-To-iOS...

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by stretchwithme »

juriga wrote: post #25
asparagui wrote: post #3

Honestly, and this applies to all updates on any system: wait a month. Developers will move over their apps. Any major bugs will be found and shook out. Stackoverflow/blogs will be populated with answers on "how do I do $thing_that_has_changed"? And B, upgrade a non-essential machine first. The only thing you gain by upgrading willy-nilly is Internet e-peen points, and after a while you realize those aren't worth los…

I agree, being an early adopter always means that you should prepare yourself for issues. However: > Developers will move over their apps. Any major bugs will be found and shook out. Wasn't this why the iOS6 beta versions were released months before the final release? Now that iOS6 is officially released, Apple is encouraging all users to update and there are quite many average Joes and Janes who don't read the tech…

I have not been prompted to update, as, like many users, I no longer need to connect to iTunes.

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by Vvector »

juriga wrote: post #13

tl;dr: iOS6 makes YouTube disappear, no solution for iPad yet I updated my 3rd gen iPad to iOS6 immediately when the update came out since I wanted to check out if the increase in JavaScript performance is noticeable (it is). However, here's why I regret updating: I've been using the iPad as a second screen on my desk to watch YouTube. After the update, I find that the YouTube icon is missing from its usual place on…

solution for iPad is www.youtube.com

It works better than the app every did.

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by juriga »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #19
juriga wrote: post #13

tl;dr: iOS6 makes YouTube disappear, no solution for iPad yet I updated my 3rd gen iPad to iOS6 immediately when the update came out since I wanted to check out if the increase in JavaScript performance is noticeable (it is). However, here's why I regret updating: I've been using the iPad as a second screen on my desk to watch YouTube. After the update, I find that the YouTube icon is missing from its usual place on…

Try Jasmine YouTube Client for iOS 6. I'm beginning to think this is better than the previous client. http://itunes.apple.com/in/app/id554937050?mt=8

Thanks for the tip, giving it a try now!

This brings out another issue: The accuracy of search results in the App Store. When searching for "youtube" (sorted by relevance), these apps are listed before "Jasmine - YouTube Client":

- Video Downloader Super Lite

- SoundHound

- SloPro - 60fps Slow Motion Video

- Trololo Sounds (yes, really)

Also being an Android user, I'm used to going through quite a lot of noise when finding the right app though. Let's hope the situation will improve in both stores soon.

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by rangibaby »

jonknee wrote: post #24
rangibaby wrote: post #8

I haven't found any show-stopping or even new bugs yet with normal usage since the update came out. The new iPod app looks and feels quite nice. Just go ahead and upgrade; you'll end up wanting some iOS6 feature / app eventually, might as well get it out of the way now.

Unless you rely on an obscure feature like transit directions that is.

I seriously doubt that after all the publicity the new maps have gotten since the release of iOS 6, that someone who A) needed a feature not present in Apple maps and B) wouldn't be mostly content with maps.google.com would be asking if they should upgrade or not.

Re: Should I download iOS6 for my iPhone4?

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Post by juriga »

Vvector wrote: post #27
juriga wrote: post #13

tl;dr: iOS6 makes YouTube disappear, no solution for iPad yet I updated my 3rd gen iPad to iOS6 immediately when the update came out since I wanted to check out if the increase in JavaScript performance is noticeable (it is). However, here's why I regret updating: I've been using the iPad as a second screen on my desk to watch YouTube. After the update, I find that the YouTube icon is missing from its usual place on…

solution for iPad is www.youtube.com It works better than the app every did.

The YouTube mobile site is quite decent, but for me not having a real fullscreen mode for watching videos is a big issue compared to native apps.

The YouTube mobile site doesn't have the apple-mobile-web-app-capable meta tag and thus displays the address bar even if placed as a shortcut on the home screen.

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