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Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by myko » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

awoimbee wrote: post #58

Building a framework on a non-async foundation (flask) in 2025 is bizarre. The only way to scale a flask API is to use gevent, which is just problems waiting to happen. Asyncio is just better, safer and has been adopted by the industry.

I was surprised to use the search feature and not see Quart mentioned: https://hyperflask.dev/guides/setup/

I've been thinking about Flask and Quart pretty much interchangeably for awhile now and use Quart for Python backends. For those who aren't aware Quart is the async Flask and they share system internals, it is usually easy to use something created for Flask for Quart.

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by nawgz » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 7:33 PM UTC

mervz wrote: post #36

fvdessen wrote: post #33

I have been using htmx to build a web app and came to the conclusion that it is a dead-end. The main problem is that the state of your frontend application is in the URL. This is not flexible enough for modern UI where you might have many different zones, widgets, popups, etc. that all need their own local navigation, activation states etc. Putting all of this in a single global url is extremely hard. Designing your…

It's a dead end for your use case, let's be very clear about that. And it's funny that you think anything about React and/or Vue is 'trivial'.

Surely you’re not saying the frameworks famous for ui = f(state) actually suck at managing state…

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by mikestorrent » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:06 PM UTC

recursivedoubts wrote: post #53

emixam wrote: post #17

Hello, author of hyperflask here. I'm happy to finally announce this project as I've been working on it for quite some time. I made an announcement post here: https://hyperflask.dev/blog/2025/10/14/launch-annoncement/ I love to hear feedback!

yo, i'm the htmx guy this looks awesome!

Love your work. I wanted what it does in like 2007... always felt like extending HTML more was the way it should have gone, instead of the JS hell we spent over a decade in instead. Your work makes me feel like I'm not an idiot, and that my ideas were somewhat valid!

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by rodolphoarruda » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:19 PM UTC

recursivedoubts wrote: post #53

emixam wrote: post #17

Hello, author of hyperflask here. I'm happy to finally announce this project as I've been working on it for quite some time. I made an announcement post here: https://hyperflask.dev/blog/2025/10/14/launch-annoncement/ I love to hear feedback!

yo, i'm the htmx guy this looks awesome!

I use it in all my projects. Thank you. The Hypermedia book is incredibly good and "nostalgic" to me, a child of the web 1.0.

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by reality_inspctr » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:20 PM UTC

emixam wrote: post #17

Hello, author of hyperflask here. I'm happy to finally announce this project as I've been working on it for quite some time. I made an announcement post here: https://hyperflask.dev/blog/2025/10/14/launch-annoncement/ I love to hear feedback!

excited to try out. flask coding agents work really well together.

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by reality_inspctr » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:22 PM UTC

hunvreus wrote: post #23

Some interesting concepts: - Components: https://hyperflask.dev/guides/components/ - Bundling view and controller in the same file: https://hyperflask.dev/guides/interactive-apps/ I think these may be footguns though. Components for example are just a regular macros under the hood. Why not use macros then? I'm also curious about the choice of Flask. I started with a similar approach for /dev/push [1], but ended up mo…

yeah fastapi + htmx is very effective.

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by focom » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:30 PM UTC

in the same vein i prefer https://plainframework.com/

plain keep the admin dashboard and is very agent friendly

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by b_e_n_t_o_n » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:34 PM UTC

andersmurphy wrote: post #42

fvdessen wrote: post #33

I have been using htmx to build a web app and came to the conclusion that it is a dead-end. The main problem is that the state of your frontend application is in the URL. This is not flexible enough for modern UI where you might have many different zones, widgets, popups, etc. that all need their own local navigation, activation states etc. Putting all of this in a single global url is extremely hard. Designing your…

Hypermedia can do all of that fine. You don't need to stick it all in the url. Using simple session and cookie/tab id state can be shared and or isolated between tabs. Then just do a lookup in your backend database. Hypermedia is also way better for realtime and multiplayer. If anything where HTMX falls short is it doesn't put enough state on the backend, if anything it's not radical enough.

You mean I should be storing the state of a popup menu in my database?

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by rodolphoarruda » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:37 PM UTC

As a PHP guy and Htmx enthusiast, I wonder if the same result could be achieved with a framework like Slim; having just html files making requests to the middleware via the front-controller.

Re: Hyperflask – Full stack Flask and Htmx framework

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Post by librasteve » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:57 PM UTC

emixam wrote: post #17

Hello, author of hyperflask here. I'm happy to finally announce this project as I've been working on it for quite some time. I made an announcement post here: https://hyperflask.dev/blog/2025/10/14/launch-annoncement/ I love to hear feedback!

great to see a new framework embrace HTMX ... HTMX is inspiring many new green shoots as alternatives to JS & React

I am sure that many will like the blend of Python and Flask - and with server side HTMX I know that components are a key aspect

plus you website doesn't hurt my eyes like FastHTML

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here's my comparison to https://harcstack.org

  Language
    Python vs. Raku
  Web framework
    Flask vs. Cro
  ORM
    ?? vs. Red
  Components
    both
  HTML
    template vs. functional
  CSS
    DaisyUI/Tailwind/Bootstrap vs. Pico

So, I think you have a much wider audience with a very popular set of options - for comparison HARC stack makes more "out there" choices which I hope will appeal to the small group of folks who want to try a new way to go - like the idea of functional code for HTML (think elmlang on the server side) and are a bit allergic to Tailwind denormalization.