Didn’t know Firefox had an “AI sidebar” https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ai-chatbot Seems to be unconnected to any model and off by default.
It was weird when it just showed up one day, but after using it a bit, I like it.
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Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
#92An AI sidebar doesn't bother me. But it should be an extension, not an inescapable part of the browser.
I'd love to be able to open up an arbitrary web page in this sidebar. It would be super valuable for research. They can obviously do it, since the AI sidebar also loads a web page, but the functionality is locked for some reason, and vertical splitting extensions are pure jank. I really wish Mozilla would focus on addressing some of the numerous user feature requests, rather than whatever the current trend is.
> I'd love to be able to open up an arbitrary web page in this sidebar.
Vivaldi has that. (When Opera got bought out by some Chinese company, one of the original founders created Vivaldi. It's Chromium-based, so Chrome extensions work, and Chrome extensions not using Manifest V3 might end up not working soon).
Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
#93An AI sidebar doesn't bother me. But it should be an extension, not an inescapable part of the browser.
I'd love to be able to open up an arbitrary web page in this sidebar. It would be super valuable for research. They can obviously do it, since the AI sidebar also loads a web page, but the functionality is locked for some reason, and vertical splitting extensions are pure jank. I really wish Mozilla would focus on addressing some of the numerous user feature requests, rather than whatever the current trend is.
You can define a custom "AI" provider via about:config. It takes every webpage.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't read malice into the post, just using a tongue-in-cheek tone. My reading was "letting them know doing bad choices will not quitely be accepted". But I may ofcourse read something into it that wasn't meant.
It goes beyond tongue-in-cheek if he's actually filing tickets and forcing engineers to spend their time responding.
I don't get it. Why should not tickets be submitted for when a new feature worsen the usability of the product?
Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
#95An AI sidebar doesn't bother me. But it should be an extension, not an inescapable part of the browser.
Exactly. Firefox probably owes almost all of its remaining market share to its extension ecosystem, but it is rotting away in neglect.
First-party extensions are a nice way to test out ideas and features without increasing the core product's maintenance burden. I wouldn't even mind if Mozilla heavily promoted their own extensions, because it would help draw attention to the extension library as a whole.
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#96I like the Firefox AI features- they seem integrated rather than wanting to replace everything with it.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hum... Pretty much so. Unless it's a real emergency or the contents don't make sense until you do something, every modal window is an accessibility problem.
So is the appearance of any modal window something that justifies filing tickets with Firefox? It doesn't sound like that's PaulHoule's motivation anyway — he knows that these tickets are not going to be fixed, just closed — the point is to "pour just a little bit of sand in the gears".
I dunno. I don't personally report many bugs in public software...
But reporting real problems because you are annoyed that problems keep appearing and don't get fixed doesn't look like a societal hurting behavior to me. It does look like personally hurting, but antagonizing the author because of this is a real societal hurting behavior.
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#98Since we're all here to complain about Firefox, I want to add that at this point I'm a firefox user out of principle, but I swear I get so many weird performance issues with firefox on ubuntu that it feels like self-flagellation in service of the gods of the free and open Internet. Unfortunately they're the kinds of problems that are really hard to submit tickets for: gradual degradation of performance over the cours…
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Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
#99Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.
The HD craze was more like 20 years ago, you're getting old :)
Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
#100Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.
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