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Rethinking Sleep

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Re: Rethinking Sleep

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Post by dreamr »

philwelch wrote: post #37
gnosis wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"An uninterpreted dream is like an unopened letter." Dreams often have many layers of meaning. You might want to try keeping a long-term, detailed record of your dreams, and spending some time each day trying to make sense of them and relating them to your life and to other dreams. You might be surprised to find just how rich they are with meaning.

You can read meaning into anything. For the most part though, dreams are just synapses firing randomly. I wouldn't read too much into them, or at least not take the interpretations too seriously.

What's that movie with Eddie Murphy where he's an alien spaceship? It like this team of little people (cells, proteins, DNA, whatever) trying to make sense of all the stupid stuff you, the lumbering gene robot, got up to during the day. All I gave them to work with was a bunch of words on a webpage. Doesn't make for the most interesting or coherent storyline for a dream. One can imagine them saying, "When is this guy going to get off that stupid website and give us some real material to work with?" :)

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Post by ux-guru-12345 »

crntaylor wrote: post #26
david_shaw wrote: post #3

Disclaimer: I'm going to reference a product I built. The science of sleep is a strange thing. Sleep is ubiquitous (after all, everyone needs to sleep), and almost everyone I know complains of being tired, or constantly groggy, or stressed due to the limited amount of sleep that they get every night. I know this particularly well, because I suffer from mild insomnia that keeps me awake far later than I should be. I t…

This sounds like a gross oversimplification. For one thing - even if 90 minutes is the average length of a sleep cycle, this surely varies between humans. My sleep cycle might easily be 80 minutes or 100 minutes long, rather than 90. If I were to use sleepyti.me, it might recommend that I go to bed at 11:00pm to get up at 6:30am. But if my sleep cycle is only 80 minutes long, it will be 40 minutes out in its recommen…

Surely you are capable of subtracting the proper amount of time based on your personal cycle which may not be 90 minutes.

You'd do best not to criticize the author for using the human average of 90 minutes when his audience is the average human.

Re: Rethinking Sleep

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Post by firefoxman1 »

david_shaw wrote: post #3

Disclaimer: I'm going to reference a product I built. The science of sleep is a strange thing. Sleep is ubiquitous (after all, everyone needs to sleep), and almost everyone I know complains of being tired, or constantly groggy, or stressed due to the limited amount of sleep that they get every night. I know this particularly well, because I suffer from mild insomnia that keeps me awake far later than I should be. I t…

I use sleepyti.me quite often and it's helped me a lot. I remember about a year ago I found that sleeping ~6.5 hours or 9.5 hours felt way better than 7-8, but I never looked into why that was. After discovering your app, I now know why and how to combat all-day grogginess. So thank you.

If I get really involved in something and realise it's past my normal bed time, I'll check sleepyti.me and if it's close to a good time to fall asleep I'll take some melatonin and fall asleep, otherwise I think to myself "I'll have to survive on one less cycle tonight." and keep working.

By the way, in your research did you learn where the 8-hour myth originated?

Re: Rethinking Sleep

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Post by loboman »

david_shaw wrote: post #3

Disclaimer: I'm going to reference a product I built. The science of sleep is a strange thing. Sleep is ubiquitous (after all, everyone needs to sleep), and almost everyone I know complains of being tired, or constantly groggy, or stressed due to the limited amount of sleep that they get every night. I know this particularly well, because I suffer from mild insomnia that keeps me awake far later than I should be. I t…

If you don't mind the question: what kind of activity do you need to have in a site to generate that kind of revenue from it? ($ 1500 - $ 2000). Is it something in the order of, say, 10k ad views per month, 100k, or something bigger like 1 million, or is any other interesting factor that needs to be considered?

Re: Rethinking Sleep

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Post by Too »

This topic was on HN a few months ago with pretty long and interesting discussion. Anyone got the link?

(Probably not exactly the same article since this one was written yesterday)

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Post by eldude »

david_shaw wrote: post #3

Disclaimer: I'm going to reference a product I built. The science of sleep is a strange thing. Sleep is ubiquitous (after all, everyone needs to sleep), and almost everyone I know complains of being tired, or constantly groggy, or stressed due to the limited amount of sleep that they get every night. I know this particularly well, because I suffer from mild insomnia that keeps me awake far later than I should be. I t…

Two words: Wake light. Simplest and single greatest natural cure for sleep inertia.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3D...

Re: Rethinking Sleep

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Post by agumonkey »

adlwalrus wrote: post #32
dfc wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to try out f.lux but I am a little wary of installing a binary that messes with my xwindow settings. I wish the source was available...

There are in fact a number of free solutions... IIRC redshift was the most developed of them when I looked into it a while back. http://alternativeto.net/software/f46lux/?license=opensource

Another thanks, the benefits are instantaneous, incredible.

Re: Rethinking Sleep

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Post by nhebb »

david_shaw wrote: post #3

Disclaimer: I'm going to reference a product I built. The science of sleep is a strange thing. Sleep is ubiquitous (after all, everyone needs to sleep), and almost everyone I know complains of being tired, or constantly groggy, or stressed due to the limited amount of sleep that they get every night. I know this particularly well, because I suffer from mild insomnia that keeps me awake far later than I should be. I t…

Re http://sleepyti.me: One small issue is that sleep schedule is calculated after setting the hour and minutes, but before getting a chance to set the AM/PM.

Re: Rethinking Sleep

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Post by thenomad »

loboman wrote: post #44
david_shaw wrote: post #3

Disclaimer: I'm going to reference a product I built. The science of sleep is a strange thing. Sleep is ubiquitous (after all, everyone needs to sleep), and almost everyone I know complains of being tired, or constantly groggy, or stressed due to the limited amount of sleep that they get every night. I know this particularly well, because I suffer from mild insomnia that keeps me awake far later than I should be. I t…

If you don't mind the question: what kind of activity do you need to have in a site to generate that kind of revenue from it? ($ 1500 - $ 2000). Is it something in the order of, say, 10k ad views per month, 100k, or something bigger like 1 million, or is any other interesting factor that needs to be considered?

I'm not the OP, but I've been running ad-supported sites since before the dotcom crash of 2000, so hopefully I have some useful insight on this.

As an extremely rough benchmark, assuming $1 - $2 per 1000 page views on most sites is a reasonable baseline. Not all sites will be able to get to this, and some will get to far more, based on monetisation methods, ad placement (VERY important and frequently undervalued), number of ads, and niche served. Generally, the value of the ads increases in direct proportion to the spending power of the audience and the extent to which they arrive on the site intending to spend money. Sites offering investment advice do very well on ad payouts - free Flash game sites, not so much (although they can make it up on volume).

So for $1500 - $2000, you should probably assume you'll need a million page views a month. Some experimentation with ad placement or a higher-value niche will reduce that. I do know of people who are generating at least that much revenue in ads with 100k page views a month, but that's in very specific, high-paying niches.

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