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Zed is now available on Windows

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Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

mort96 wrote: post #157
trenchpilgrim wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The world moved into dynamic linking in the 1980's for a reason. Reasons that no longer exist. Storage is cheap, update distribution is free, time spent debugging various shared lib versions across OSes is expensive.

Storage doesn't really feel cheap. I'm considering buying a new laptop, and Apple charges $600 per TB. Sure, it's cheaper than it was in the '80s, but wasting a few gigabytes here and a few gigabytes there is quickly enough to at least force you to go from a 500GB drive to a 1TB drive, which costs $300.

That's more of an Apple problem? Storage is under $50/TB.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by afandian »

Reubend wrote: post #170
kettlecorn wrote: post #113

I've been using Zed primarily for months but I just switched back to VSCode for 2 reasons, one of which is kinda my fault and the other it's unclear where the fault is. 1. I deleted a few hours of work because I was late night coding and I decided to rename a file before check-in and delete the old version. Well I renamed it and Right-Click -> Deleted the new version by accident. It turns out Zed has both "Delete" an…

> Zed does not implement Ctrl+Z yet Wait, what? That seems like an incredibly important missing piece of functionality.

Undo works for editing. Just not (apparently) file deletion.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

Reubend wrote: post #170
kettlecorn wrote: post #113

I've been using Zed primarily for months but I just switched back to VSCode for 2 reasons, one of which is kinda my fault and the other it's unclear where the fault is. 1. I deleted a few hours of work because I was late night coding and I decided to rename a file before check-in and delete the old version. Well I renamed it and Right-Click -> Deleted the new version by accident. It turns out Zed has both "Delete" an…

> Zed does not implement Ctrl+Z yet Wait, what? That seems like an incredibly important missing piece of functionality.

To clarify, you can't Ctrl+Z immediate deletion of a file (skipping the Recycle Bin/Trash). You can undo other stuff, of course.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by homebrewer »

mercutio2 wrote: post #71
Alupis wrote: post #66

Zed looks and feels amazing to use. I test-drove it for a bit on my linux system, and the feel of it is difficult to convey to those who have not tried it yet. It's easy to overlook the significance of gpu accelerated editor - but I promise you, use it for a bit and you'll be sold. The only feature that is preventing me from switching to Zed is the current lack of DevContainer support[1]. After investing a significan…

What does having a DevContainer get you? I’m all for documenting every bit of my setup, but beyond that…

I sometimes work on old PHP applications, some of which require versions as ancient as 5.4 and refuse to run on anything beyond that. They're not only difficult/impossible to install on modern systems, but also make it hard to onboard other people — you have to write a detailed setup document and then waste a couple of hours time for each new system. And then repeat that a few more years down the line.

Why not write that document as a bunch of build instructions instead of free-form text, while also isolating the result from the rest of the system.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by homebrewer »

timfsu wrote: post #31

Unfortunately, I tried to use zed as my daily driver, but the typescript experience was subpar. While the editor itself was snappy, LSP actions like "jump to declaration" were incredibly slow on our codebase compared to VS Code / Cursor.

Check if it supports using typescript-go as your LSP. IDEA recently added this, and I've been using it for a couple of months already; it's fantastic.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by 1718627440 »

miffy900 wrote: post #72

Just wanted to mention that some basic Windows-OS keyboard shortcuts don't work, like ALT+F to open the File menu. Also things like ALT+SPACEBAR to bring up the system context menu for the focussed window (the menu with maximise, minimise, close options etc.) do not seem to work. I'm guessing with the DirectX rendering backend, the 'app' is rendered more akin to a video game than a native win32 process. Also after in…

Rust Hello World is larger than Git. Still smaller than Java and Electron, but not exactly small.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

homebrewer wrote: post #165
trenchpilgrim wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The world moved into dynamic linking in the 1980's for a reason. Reasons that no longer exist. Storage is cheap, update distribution is free, time spent debugging various shared lib versions across OSes is expensive.

RAM isn't cheap (it may be for your tasks and wallet depth, but generally it isn't, especially since DDR5). Shared objects also get "deduplicated" in RAM, not just on disk.

What objects is the Zed process using that would even be shared with any other process on my system? Language support is mostly via external language servers. It uses its own graphics framework, so the UI code wouldn't be shared. A huge amount of the executable size is tree-sitter related.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by gethly »

Does the editor have an "absolutely no AI crap" version? Also, it says that it uses WSL, but i do not use it. I use Git bash instead. Is it supported?

(I'm asking instead of finding out myself because of the little interest I have in this editor)

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by podnami »

gethly wrote: post #178

Does the editor have an "absolutely no AI crap" version? Also, it says that it uses WSL, but i do not use it. I use Git bash instead. Is it supported? (I'm asking instead of finding out myself because of the little interest I have in this editor)

You can just ask AI

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

flohofwoe wrote: post #151
pulsartwin wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad there's finally some progress in that direction. If they actually implement subpixel RGB anti-aliasing, it would definitely be worth considering as an alternative. It's been surprising to see so many people praise Zed when its text rendering (of all things) has been in such a state for so long.

Tbh though, is subpixel text rendering really all that important anymore when high resolution monitors are common now and low-dpi is the exception?

Most people I know are on 1920x1080 LCDs. Over half of PC gamers seem to be on that resolution, for example: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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