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When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

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Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#41
Looking at the comments, I find it kind of odd that this issue is polarizing. What exactly is the nature of the divide between the extremes of the people who think we've had no progress vs those who think we've had considerable progress?

I would hazard a guess that the "substantial-progress" crowd is assuming that physics and chemistry have been largely figured out and there's nothing else to do there except tidying up some loose ends and working with what we've got and the only place progress could possibly come from is through information technology manipulating what we have.

The no-progress crowd are waiting for the next big fundamental breakthrough like the discovery of the microbe, quantum physics, and electricity.

I still don't understand why the vitriol is thrown around on this one so hard by the "substantial progress" crowd. Maybe they think that the "no-progress" crowd are a bunch of lunatics for believing there are fundamental things that we could discover that could significantly increase our understanding of the fundamentals of physics, chemistry or biology.

Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#42
The reason that I agree that there is low innovation is that innovation eventually results in economic acceleration. Think industrial revolution.

However, innovation has not stopped if you consider that in the last century we have Ford Motor company, fast food, marketing as industry, rock-and-roll, Sony Walkman, Levis, iPod, etc. There is a ton of innovation.

But unfortunately, it needs to be disruptive innovation that changes how efficient we are and improves quality of life. Writing new webapps does not do that. Designing new iPhones does not do that.

Something else to consider is that the time is ripe for something other than technological innovation. What if we could better understand the world we live in and come closer to God? What if we could overcome the 50/50 political divide causing so much hate in our country from both sides? What if peace could be reached with all countries? That would also be innovation, because we can't seem to figure out a way to do it currently.

Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#43
The article just doesn't apply for the developing world. The China, and India of 1990 was completely different from what it is today.

Speaking from experience, 20 years ago most people in India did not have a phone and it was impossible to get a home phone without string-pulling and bribery. Now 50% of the population has a mobile phone; no bribes. 30 years ago, Sugar was rationed and you could buy a 1 kg of Sugar for a household per month. Now, there is plentiful Sugar.

Things that Developed countries take for granted - Fridges, Washing Machines, Microwaves, Dining tables, TVs, personal transport (cars, motorcycles), better access to health care, better access to education, simply did not exist or was out of reach for most. I'm not saying that they are now available to everyone, but the reach has expanded.

20 years the politicians made promises that Rice would be available at low rates, now they make promises that TVs would be available at low rates.

If that's not a revolution, I wonder what is. Heck even electricity is still a luxury in India.

Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#44
The real lack of innovation is in the social and political structures we have to live with. And those are a product of primate brains that evolve at a much slower rate than our technological sophistication.

Right at the moment, the dominant political regime on this planet is still concerned with areas of land under military hegemony, and is apparently completely incapable of dealing with things like keeping this planet habitable over the short term, much less the long term.

We have paleolithic brains dealing with state-of-the-art environmental problems in the context of 17th century political institutions and 20th century financial institutions in a society run by people who would like to retreat to 12th century religious values because THE FUTURE IS SCARY AND UNCERTAIN.

Like someone said, we are in one whole joojooflop situation here.

[1]. Joojooflop http://www.zootle.net/afda/faq/e.shtml

Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#45
What is innovation? The author seems to focus to much on the dramatic or thing that directly impact our lives. While there are a lot of things that don't directly make our lives more meaningful (Halo,etc.), there are amazing advances that have made living today so very exciting!!

Hand, face, arm, leg and ovarian transplants. (& others) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_transplantation#Timeline...

Better response to heart disease, (near) instant medical record sharing, targeted cancer treatments, human genome, anti-smoking research & bans in 27 states, functional MRI, robots performing surgery http://www.medpagetoday.com/InfectiousDisease/PublicHealth/1...

snopes.com gave people accurate so that we don't have to rely on crap information- no matter how good it sounds.

Doctors can better diagnose patients thanks to information available on PDA.

GPS- now that's amazing. Google "GPS saves lives" seriously!

Cell Phones- also saves lives, makes contacting someone infinitely easier. How did truckers know to call home if there was an emergency at home? Much more difficult!

Ham Radios, Satellite Phones, hearing aids, pacemakers etc. Amazing devices that have done so much for us!

All of the tiny details made it possible to disseminate information, keep better contact perform incredible medical breakthroughs & decrease poverty worldwide. (Cell phones, internet, square, etc. facilitate economic development)

I'm an IT graduate. I look at the amazing inventions in my field. It feels like they all came less than 4 years ago. (when I graduated)

Oh, I forgot to mention the Nobel prizes. (many are very impressive!) Innovation is happening faster than it ever has before! In another 10 years, we may say- poverty & consumer debt is decreasing systemically worldwide, robots are plowing our fields & HIV has a vaccine! I enjoy the wonderful present and look forward to our bright future!

Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#47
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyday I face problems that I've never solved before. I can query a nearly complete repository of human knowledge and find solutions nearly instantly.[1] When I'm exploring a new city I have satellite maps of the entire world tied to a searchable index of millions of places, all on a device that fits in my pocket and is more powerful than as a supercomputer was 25 years ago[2]. There's an electric c on the market t…

There's so many to add to the list, but nothing feels like a revolution to me. Do you feel they changed your life, I mean really changed your life ?

Here's a list of a few things I might do on an average day that I couldn't do when I was in high school.

* Call home from the grocery store to ask if we're out of Provolone.

* Check my shopping list and see that items have been added to it since I left the house.

* Find a new restaurant with good reviews and make a reservation in mere minutes.

* Take pictures that rival 35mm film and make them available to friends in minutes (with me, it's usually hours or more, but it could be minutes).

* Find my way home from a random location without asking for directions in a gas station.

* Carry weeks worth of music and years worth of reading in my pocket.

* Order a new coffee maker online and expect it the next day.

* Buy a movie online and watch it instantly.

* Get answers to random medical questions.

* Find documentation for damned near anything.

* Work from home with access to everything I would have at the office.

Yes, many of these are indeed life changing. Could I live without these things? Absolutely, but I could also live without cars, and without air conditioning, and without a lot of things that were revolutionary. Electricity, indoor plumbing, and wired telephones took decades to make their way into average people's homes. If anything, the "digital age" is permeating lives faster and more broadly than the major changes that preceded it.

Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that the difference between 1900 and 1960 is fundamental on every level. Carriages -> Cars Land Travel -> Aerospace Iceboxes at best -> Modern refrigeration Pen and Paper -> Computers Newspapers -> Ubiquitous electronic media. Living at the mercy of infectious diseases -> Antibiotics/vaccines. Coal (at best) -> Nuclear Outhouses -> Modern Plumbing and sanitation Etc. You could make similarly great compar…

Isn't that a result of relative stagnation in the 1800's? When things like better microscopes, advanced plumbing, higher speed trains, electricity, phone, radio and other staples of today's world were just being researched and used by a handful of people (with the others wondering why tf does it matter). Right now, we're paving the way for much more powerful computers (quantum & "living" computers, HUD glasses), chea…

Stagnation in the 1800's? Keep in mind this was the century that saw the invention and spread of the railroad, the invention and spread of a nearly instant global communication medium with the telegraph, the telephone, the moving picture, photography, the typewriter, large-scale mechanized factories with the spread of steam power, etc.

Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#49
The greatest innovation shall be human compassion and decency. The kind of discovery that doesn't let half of the world starve in a vain pursuit of tech gadgets. The kind of invention that will make it obvious that 47% of a population is not aspiring to live any less freely than the other 53%. The kind of transformation that will end all prejudices.

Alas, while we are great at opening Pandora's box, we totally fail at evolving as spiritual beings.

Re: When Will This Low-Innovation Era End?

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that the difference between 1900 and 1960 is fundamental on every level. Carriages -> Cars Land Travel -> Aerospace Iceboxes at best -> Modern refrigeration Pen and Paper -> Computers Newspapers -> Ubiquitous electronic media. Living at the mercy of infectious diseases -> Antibiotics/vaccines. Coal (at best) -> Nuclear Outhouses -> Modern Plumbing and sanitation Etc. You could make similarly great compar…

In the future people will look back at comments like this and wonder how we could be so blind. But that's because what will be obvious to them is not so obvious to us. We are immersed in our history, we are distracted by flashy short-term trends and comparatively blind to subtle, long-term trends. Partly because we lack the foresight to see which trends will win out in the long run. However, let's look at how the ver…

"In the future people will look back at comments like this and wonder how we could be so blind."

Are you trying to suggest people are going to look back on your comment and wonder how you were so blind? I'm kind of wondering that right now.

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