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Zed is now available on Windows

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Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by marcosdumay »

poly2it wrote: post #41
breadwinner wrote: post #29

I watched the video on the home page and thought it is weird that they spend an inordinate amount of time on frame rate. Who picks an editor based on frame rate? If you want to talk about perf in the context of a text editor show me how big of a file you can load--especially if the file has no line breaks. Emacs has trouble here. If you load a minified js file it slows to a crawl especially if syntax highlighting is…

It's not just frame rate, but also input delay. If you're using Visual Studio Code, you might be used to waiting 100 ms for a character you typed to appear. My personal workflow is based on Kitty and Neovim, which I've configured so that it can launch within 20 ms. Working without any input delay allows me to explore and edit projects at typing speed. As such, even tiny delays really bother me and make me lose my flo…

The only IDE I have used where frame rate is noticeable was Visual Studio (not Code).

Once you are beyond a bare minimum, every other speed metric is more important. Zed does really well on many of those, but some depend on the LSP, so they become the bottleneck quickly.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

miffy900 wrote: post #72

Just wanted to mention that some basic Windows-OS keyboard shortcuts don't work, like ALT+F to open the File menu. Also things like ALT+SPACEBAR to bring up the system context menu for the focussed window (the menu with maximise, minimise, close options etc.) do not seem to work. I'm guessing with the DirectX rendering backend, the 'app' is rendered more akin to a video game than a native win32 process. Also after in…

> I was always under the impresion that Rust apps are pretty lightweight

Maybe compared to electron, but binary size is an issue with any nontrivial rust application. Due to how cargo works, it compiles and bundles in every dependency in world.

400MB is unnecessarily large though.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

mercutio2 wrote: post #71
Alupis wrote: post #66

Zed looks and feels amazing to use. I test-drove it for a bit on my linux system, and the feel of it is difficult to convey to those who have not tried it yet. It's easy to overlook the significance of gpu accelerated editor - but I promise you, use it for a bit and you'll be sold. The only feature that is preventing me from switching to Zed is the current lack of DevContainer support[1]. After investing a significan…

What does having a DevContainer get you? I’m all for documenting every bit of my setup, but beyond that…

I use a devcontainer to run Claude Code on a sandbox with all tools and services installed. That way I can run YOLO mode with some safety.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

hdjrudni wrote: post #84
foobarbaz33 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could have an lsp server of infinite speed, but that wouldn't help one bit if the bottleneck is how the client deals with the messaging. The specific techniques used to send, receive, and parse JSON could matter.

Could, ya, but I'd be pretty impressed and sad if Rust didn't have really good JSON parsers/serializers by now.

What do you mean? It has exceptionally good crates for that, and has for more than a decade. Is there something you feel is missing?

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

xmcp123 wrote: post #69
KetoManx64 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How am I supposed to ask for permission from IT to install Steam or gaming related tools like Moonshine just to use a code editor?

Every part of this sentence made me so sad. Your company trusts you to write code but not run code?

It is for protection against rootkits, not to be nanny to the employees.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

zamadatix wrote: post #8
eviks wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its binary is half a gig in size, so just like a browser, nothing fresh about that.

Size on disk is about 64x less relevant than size in RAM for me. To give Zed some credit in this area, it's statically linked and the Linux binary is half the size as the Windows one.

The OS loads the entire binary into RAM.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

waterTanuki wrote: post #57
eviks wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its binary is half a gig in size, so just like a browser, nothing fresh about that.

considering how cheap storage is nowadays nitpicking about binary size is a very weird take. Are you editing code on an esp32?

RAM is not cheap. Executables live in RAM when running.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

STKFLT wrote: post #36
breadwinner wrote: post #29

I watched the video on the home page and thought it is weird that they spend an inordinate amount of time on frame rate. Who picks an editor based on frame rate? If you want to talk about perf in the context of a text editor show me how big of a file you can load--especially if the file has no line breaks. Emacs has trouble here. If you load a minified js file it slows to a crawl especially if syntax highlighting is…

High frame rates (low frame times, really) are essential to responsiveness which, for those who appreciate it, is going to make much more of a difference day to day than the odd hiccup opening a large file (not that zed does have that issue, I wouldn't know as I haven't tried opening something huge).

This is one of those things that make me question whether I experience the world fundamentally differently than many of you.

I have never, ever felt “latency” in editor UI. Any editor UI. It’s editing text for Pete’s sake. I can only type so fast, or read so fast.

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