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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by thehamkercat »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

local-development has been fine for me on m4 pro sequoia (i switched from archlinux), not much different

but i absolutely hate MacOS26, my next laptop won't be a macbook

It's a shame what they did to this awesome hardware with a crappy update

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by mjamesaustin »

defraudbah wrote: post #76

it says "up to 14 hours more than intel based mpro", which means intel was designed to last 10 hours which matches what was advertised https://web.archive.org/web/20201109092341/https://www.apple... we went from 10 hours to 24 hours in 5 years - impressive i wonder why they advertise gaming on the laptop, anyone plays anything Meaningful on macbooks?

I play absolutely everything on my M1 Macbook Pro. Through Crossover, basically every Windows game runs fine. I used to check ahead of time before buying a game, but it's so good I now kind of just assume games work.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by shepherdjerred »

defraudbah wrote: post #76

it says "up to 14 hours more than intel based mpro", which means intel was designed to last 10 hours which matches what was advertised https://web.archive.org/web/20201109092341/https://www.apple... we went from 10 hours to 24 hours in 5 years - impressive i wonder why they advertise gaming on the laptop, anyone plays anything Meaningful on macbooks?

Most of the games I play (League of Legends, Civ, Factorio) work really well on my MacBook.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by kwanbix »

reactordev wrote: post #80
lm28469 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

Tariffs... Someone has to pay them and it sure isn't Apple.

Of course, you’re not wrong.

Apple could subsidize by absorbing part of the tariff in the U.S. and overcharging in the EU.

That said, in the EU we have a two-year warranty.

VAT in the U.S. is no more than 12%.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by forgotoldacc »

pigeonhole123 wrote: post #98
reactordev wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tariffs... Someone has to pay them and it sure isn't Apple.

It's much cheaper in the US

I have a strong feeling Apple is raising prices elsewhere in order to avoid pissing off the notoriously sensitive consumers in America. Sony is doing similar things with making the PlayStation expensive everywhere to make it affordable for Americans. The world is essentially subsidizing the tariffs for Americans.

People in other countries will get pissed but ultimately suck it up and buy a product. People in America will take it as a personal offense due to the current Maoist-style cult of personality, and you'll get death threats and videos of them shooting your products posted onto social media. Just look at what happened to that beer company. No such thing would happen in Germany.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

Aurornis wrote: post #44
letmetweakit wrote: post #19

Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...

Removing the charger is a good move, in my opinion. USB-C chargers are everywhere now. Monitors with USB-C or Thunderbolt inputs will charge your laptop, too. I bought a monitor that charges over the USB-C cable and I haven’t use the charger that came with the laptop in years because I have a smaller travel charger that I prefer for trips anyway. You don’t have to buy the premium Apple charger and cable. There are ma…

The battery is good enough that I often travel with just my phone charger. I can plug the laptop in at night when the slow charge rate isn't a hindrance and be fine with the all day battery life

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by mjamesaustin »

eagleinparadise wrote: post #71

Anyone know when to expect the M5 Pros? I am on a base 16gb M1 and struggling hard in daily workloads. I am often running at 20gb of swap memory usage. I don't really use local LLMs but think 32GB RAM would be good for me... but I am so ready to upgrade but trying to figure out how much longer we need to wait.

Rumors suggest they might be early next year, or likely by spring.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

whydid wrote: post #125
lm28469 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

The EU requires a 1 year warranty on electronics, where in the US it's only 90 days. The higher cost of electronics reflects this.

*) 2 year is the warranty for consumers in the EU. 1 year only for business/enterprise customers
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