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DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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In $5 wrench we trust. - Bitcoin

That doesn't appear to be how they seized the funds though, the criminal hasn't been caught so they must have hacked his devices to gain access to the private keys. No $5 wrench involved.

It’s probably a computer hack of some sort that led to accessing the wallet password etc.

I bet somebody wrote down their password, too scared of what would happen to them if they were to forget it.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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Direct link to the indictment https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/chairman-prince-group-i... Cambodia's specifically 30-50% of the economy can be directly attributed to scamming plus casinos This one of the other organizations / major bank used for money laundering directly linked to Hun Sen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huione_Group > The company is linked to Cambodia's ruling Hun family, which includes the current…

> Cambodia's specifically 30-50% of the economy can be directly attributed to scamming plus casinos Are you saying that 30-50% of Cambodia's economy can be directly attributed to scamming and casinos? I find that shocking and hard to believe. Do you have a source for that statement?

My first experience stepping off the plane in Cambodia was being scammed by the official issuing visas. It was $20, I gave him $50, and he didn't want to give any change back. Scams were the defining part of the tourist experience there.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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Wow. $15 billion is an astronomical, nearly unfathomable amount of money in Cambodia. This must have been a huge operation. It's almost 1/3 of the country's entire GDP! Well done DOJ. Hopefully the victims get their money back.

Wait, hold on, I thought the promise of crypto was that: 1. The feds can't take your money. 2. Once your money's gone, it's gone. If criminals can't count on #1 holding true, and their victims can't count on #2 holding true, what is even the point of it?

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Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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That doesn't appear to be how they seized the funds though, the criminal hasn't been caught so they must have hacked his devices to gain access to the private keys. No $5 wrench involved.

Which just goes to show that custody is a hard and almost always under-estimated problem.

It is, but it's not so hard that you can't figure it out to keep your 15 billion safe.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

#175

Who they were scamming, Americans? How they managed to gain trust, even considering strong accent or grammatical mistakes. How do they identify and trace these Chinese fraudsters? They all look the same and have a name like Hi Lo. Where the money go... of course real estate.

this should answer some of your questions: https://youtu.be/vu-Y1h9rTUs

Sad to see so many Ukrainians sucked into these schemes as employees.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

#176

Wow. $15 billion is an astronomical, nearly unfathomable amount of money in Cambodia. This must have been a huge operation. It's almost 1/3 of the country's entire GDP! Well done DOJ. Hopefully the victims get their money back.

They operate in places like Cambodia but it's the Chinese

There's areas in Laos and Cambodia they control where it literally operates under a different set of laws. One of the areas, I think in Laos, Americans aren't even allowed to enter

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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They used the forbidden technique of 5€ wrench.

It's not even forbidden, anyone can use it.

Beating someone with a wrench feels unlawful/forbidden pretty much everywhere.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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Direct link to the indictment https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/chairman-prince-group-i... Cambodia's specifically 30-50% of the economy can be directly attributed to scamming plus casinos This one of the other organizations / major bank used for money laundering directly linked to Hun Sen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huione_Group > The company is linked to Cambodia's ruling Hun family, which includes the current…

> Cambodia's specifically 30-50% of the economy can be directly attributed to scamming plus casinos Are you saying that 30-50% of Cambodia's economy can be directly attributed to scamming and casinos? I find that shocking and hard to believe. Do you have a source for that statement?

It's true. They have daily flights to Cambodia. Go there and look at it. It's all casinos and scams and dust.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

#179

I'm curious how the Bitcoin was actually seized, given that the indictment says the perp is still at large and held the Bitcoin in self custodied wallets.

He has the key written on a piece of paper in his wallet. The US government has his wallet. And his Bitcoin.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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post #99

Wow. $15 billion is an astronomical, nearly unfathomable amount of money in Cambodia. This must have been a huge operation. It's almost 1/3 of the country's entire GDP! Well done DOJ. Hopefully the victims get their money back.

Wait, hold on, I thought the promise of crypto was that: 1. The feds can't take your money. 2. Once your money's gone, it's gone. If criminals can't count on #1 holding true, and their victims can't count on #2 holding true, what is even the point of it?

The new promise of crypto is helping organized crime or sanctioned individuals/countries with payments, and it's delivering!
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