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DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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I had never heard of "pig butchering".

> The practice is called “pig butchering” because scammers deliberately build up trust and emotionally manipulate victims over an extended period—much like fattening up a pig—before ultimately stealing as much money as possible in a final act of financial “slaughter”

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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post #61

I had never heard of "pig butchering". > The practice is called “pig butchering” because scammers deliberately build up trust and emotionally manipulate victims over an extended period—much like fattening up a pig—before ultimately stealing as much money as possible in a final act of financial “slaughter”

It's a direct translation of the Chinese 杀猪.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_butchering_scam

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Direct link to the indictment https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/chairman-prince-group-i... Cambodia's specifically 30-50% of the economy can be directly attributed to scamming plus casinos This one of the other organizations / major bank used for money laundering directly linked to Hun Sen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huione_Group > The company is linked to Cambodia's ruling Hun family, which includes the current…

> Cambodia's specifically 30-50% of the economy can be directly attributed to scamming plus casinos Are you saying that 30-50% of Cambodia's economy can be directly attributed to scamming and casinos? I find that shocking and hard to believe. Do you have a source for that statement?

It's not hard to believe that a small country can have a vastly oversized economy due to finance - legal or illegal.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

#66

So apparently the FBI or other US agency hacked this guy and drained his wallets? No indication he’s been arrested, wallets said to be unhosted. Clearly should’ve used an offline wallet lol.

Taylor is on to something here: https://x.com/tayvano_/status/1978273602719158448 tl;dr: Someone cracked these weak entropy wallets 3+ years before anyone else and kept it secret Whether that was the USG or another entity has yet to be revealed

Please use xcancel: https://xcancel.com/tayvano_/status/1978273602719158448 when linking to X since a lot of us don't have accounts or just don't want to log in.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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And this isn't the only one. The ruling family in Cambodia is a big part of it, via their ownership in HuiOne (now renamed), which is essentially the clearing house for the 'industry'. In fact the Thai-Cambodia border conflict is due to this industry, and a breakdown in the relationship between Thai and Cambodian leaders over it, with the wiley cambodian leader yet again provoking the sensitive border issue for polit…

No, it was a "Russia invading Ukraine" sized miscalculation. The "wily" Cambodian leader's military got their asses handed to them by the Thai army, and Cambodia is suffering a lot more from the still ongoing border closure than Thailand is. Remittances, tourism, trade, you name it, it's all in the doldrums. (Good time to visit Angkor Wat if you can swing it, though.)

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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From this article they got $15B ( https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/14/bitcoin-doj-chen-zhi-pig-but... ). At what point do you say, "That's enough money?" Did they think the scam was going to go on forever?

Had they thought $1B was enough they would have missed out on $14B.

I think the implication is they could have stayed under the radar and still have that $1B.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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post #61

I had never heard of "pig butchering". > The practice is called “pig butchering” because scammers deliberately build up trust and emotionally manipulate victims over an extended period—much like fattening up a pig—before ultimately stealing as much money as possible in a final act of financial “slaughter”

It's a direct translation of the Chinese 杀猪. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_butchering_scam

And it's a bad expression, because it's the scammers own smug term of contempt, and makes victims less likely to come forward/warn each other thanks to the shame.

Re: DOJ seizes $15B in Bitcoin from 'pig butchering' scam based in Cambodia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Ars Technica: "Adding further mystery, it’s unknown how federal officials managed to obtain the cryptographic keys required to seize the funds from Zhi." My assumption is that at this point they just have orders from a judge allowing them to do it and they will find the means later.

Allowing them to do what? The feds are saying they already have the keys, so either they are lying, or they already had the means to get the keys. Which would be the juicy part of the story.

I guess they have a quantum computer.
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