Has Apple Peaked? • Hacker News Board

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by Codhisattva » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:28 PM UTC

marshallp wrote: post #10

If it reshifted to data science from hardware, it has the most cash of any tech company and could grow even larger. Steve Wozniak recently talked about smartphones having AI so this might be already in the works (focus on improving siri rather than stylishness).

Can't do that without capabilities. Apple clearly has tremendous hardware capabilities and to give that up would be inane.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by rgbrgb » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:30 PM UTC

marshallp wrote: post #10

If it reshifted to data science from hardware, it has the most cash of any tech company and could grow even larger. Steve Wozniak recently talked about smartphones having AI so this might be already in the works (focus on improving siri rather than stylishness).

I hope Apple understands that when it comes to a physical computing device, people (including me) care about look and feel (stylishness) a lot more than voice recognition.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by Codhisattva » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:30 PM UTC

It's a silly article. What's really being exposed is just how far ahead Google is with map data aggregation. It's suddenly very apparent that after Search, Google's got great map data.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by czhiddy » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:32 PM UTC

zaidf wrote: post #20

If I live in Manhattan and extensively use Maps for public transport info, is it true that feature no longer exists? If so, I'm going to wait before upgrading to iOS 6. Widespread blunder like this does so much to hurt the Apple brand especially in light of an ambitious competitor like Samsung. Apple should realize that even its biggest fan boys will begin rethinking if you cripple basic parts of their product repeat…

Yup, no more public transport info. Until Google releases their iOS Maps app (assuming they do), the best solution seems to be loading up maps.google.com in Safari instead.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:33 PM UTC

steve8918 wrote: post #11

I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.) The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if…

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Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by anonymouz » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:34 PM UTC

steve8918 wrote: post #11

I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.) The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if…

While the headline is inflammatory, the article itself is not so bad. He makes some valid observation about how the market and Apple's position in it have changed, making it harder for them to be the new and innovative player as they have more and more to lose by taking risky moves.

In general however I agree with your sentiment.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by xxcode » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:37 PM UTC

Apple will never be able to match Google in Maps. Here's why:

Apple does not have any technical depth.

I am a former Apple employee. Apple can't do technically hard problems that require a multi-person effort. Yes, Apple can and has done good Hardware. But hardware is not technically hard - its an art. Apple is good at Art. Google is good at science.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by xxcode » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:37 PM UTC

Apple will never be able to match Google in Maps. Here's why:

Apple does not have any technical depth.

I am a former Apple employee. Apple can't do technically hard problems that require a multi-person effort. Yes, Apple can and has done good Hardware. But hardware is not technically hard - its an art. Apple is good at Art. Google is good at science.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by m_ke » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:37 PM UTC

zaidf wrote: post #20

If I live in Manhattan and extensively use Maps for public transport info, is it true that feature no longer exists? If so, I'm going to wait before upgrading to iOS 6. Widespread blunder like this does so much to hurt the Apple brand especially in light of an ambitious competitor like Samsung. Apple should realize that even its biggest fan boys will begin rethinking if you cripple basic parts of their product repeat…

I was planning on buying the new iphone but after upgrading my iPhone 4 to iOS I'm having second thoughts. I might just go and get the S3 or wait for Note2 to come out.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by maayank » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:37 PM UTC

pav3l wrote: post #8

mattparcher wrote: post #2

For the unfamiliar, Betteridge’s Law of Headlines[1]: "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word 'no'" [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridges_Law_of_Headlines

The unfamiliar ? This article is referenced on HN at least once a week now

And for a good reason. I find the noise to signal ratio of these articles relatively high and I think many would like to see less of them.