Has Apple Peaked? • Hacker News Board

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by steve8918 » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:16 PM UTC

I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.)

The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if he's wrong.

I would be infinitely more interested in his opinion if he actually shorted the stock and put his money where his mouth is, journalistic rules against trading aside.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by choko » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:18 PM UTC

mattparcher wrote: post #2

For the unfamiliar, Betteridge’s Law of Headlines[1]: "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word 'no'" [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridges_Law_of_Headlines

Unfortunately, that law doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I've read several stories today alone where the question in the headline cannot be answered accurately with a simple "no", not that this headline is one of them.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by tjogin » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:18 PM UTC

steve19 wrote: post #9

mikecane wrote: post #3

About two years ago, I thought the iPod had peaked and couldn't go anywhere. Yet look at the new iPod Nano.

The problem is not that apples new products aren't improving, but that they are no longer miles ahead of their smartphone competitors. Android is now a compelling alternative. Apple will eventually release a iPhone nano, but Samsung will release a galaxy micro before or soon after. Has any company in history been so large and yet so reliant on a single product? Because of this I am fat to nervous to invest in apple,…

Uh, all the oil companies come to mind. As for tech; Microsoft? Actually, lots of companies are reliant on one of their products. Though I'm not sure Apple is. The iPad is selling at a pace higher than the iPhone did, for example.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by scrrr » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:19 PM UTC

steve8918 wrote: post #11

I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.) The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if…

Well, at least it is in the "Opinion" section, and not filed under "News". I think the literature category is similar to say Paul Graham's essays. Which is not to say that the quality is comparable though.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by johnrydell » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:20 PM UTC

It is nearly impossible to stay "the best" for a long time. Apple is going to be great and very profitable for many years to come. But the amazing run they've been on for the past decade will slowly start to fade as entrepreneurs around the world all try to take a piece of their billion dollar business.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by mycodebreaks » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:23 PM UTC

steve8918 wrote: post #11

I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.) The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if…

One thing he correctly points out is how much better Apple Maps would have been if Mr. Jobs were around. Apple Maps is too big of a blunder for Apple to contain its criticism.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by czhiddy » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:23 PM UTC

steve8918 wrote: post #11

I'm neither an Apple fanboy nor a hater. I have an iPhone5, but I use a Windows 7 desktop PC. (I am, however, an Apple Maps hater after using it for a few days.) The annoying thing about articles like this is that it's basically the professional journalist's version of trolling... making an outrageous statement in order to garner attention/clicks. He can come in and shit all over Apple, and suffer no consequences if…

If every journalist/blogger who has been bearish on Apple (versus trolling for pagehits) actually shorted the stock, there would be no naysayers at this point :)

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by jakejake » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:23 PM UTC

What a bunch of baloney. The author is just rewriting history to be sensationalist. The maps have some problems, we all know it already (need one of those batman slapping robin pictures).

Apple has mis-steps just like any company. FCPX was very recent and was a total disaster at launch and Steve Jobs was very much there. Have we already forgotten "antenna-gate" with the iPhone 4? There's an expectation for Apple to be so perfect that if any problem happens the ship is going down. No company can break new ground year after year and not have some rough starts.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by logn » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:24 PM UTC

Fortunately, Steve Jobs had the idea for Apple TV (a real TV not the little box) that could give Apple another runaway success. With their designer Ive's and the UI designers still around, I see no reason why Apple TV won't propel Apple for many years to come.

Re: Has Apple Peaked?

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Post by zaidf » Sat, Sep 22, 2012, 6:28 PM UTC

If I live in Manhattan and extensively use Maps for public transport info, is it true that feature no longer exists?

If so, I'm going to wait before upgrading to iOS 6. Widespread blunder like this does so much to hurt the Apple brand especially in light of an ambitious competitor like Samsung. Apple should realize that even its biggest fan boys will begin rethinking if you cripple basic parts of their product repeatedly. There will come an unforced blunder that couldn't be fixed by an update or use of a cover.

I've been an iPhone user for years but am seriously considering a move to S3 after coming across a few use cases that make me hate Apple.

Basically the trend I am beginning to see is that if you are making enterprise specific apps, sooner or later you come across a basic and intentional iOS limitation that makes you hit your head against the wall.