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Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

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Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

#21

Post by kungito »

micronn wrote: post #19
sunaookami wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's free for one year if you sign into an MS account.

Which makes it not free.

You have to log into w11 anyways as a must, no avoiding it. Sure you wouldnt call this free from purist perspective but from consumer perspective it is

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

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Post by 1718627440 »

kungito wrote: post #21
micronn wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which makes it not free.

You have to log into w11 anyways as a must, no avoiding it. Sure you wouldnt call this free from purist perspective but from consumer perspective it is

It's not free, it's gratis.

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

#23

Post by alyandon »

general1465 wrote: post #18

I think that a lot of hardware which "does not support" Windows 11 actually does after BIOS/UEFI update or reconfiguration. I myself had 2 such examples from like 20 computers in the company. - A board with AMD Ryzen needed to fTPM enabled - A different board from Gigabyte I think had wonky Secure Boot support, but after BIOS update everything worked just alright and Windows 11 has installed itself without a problem.

Same for my parents - one of their desktops that they were going to leave on Windows 10 needed to have tpm and secure boot turned on in bios and suddenly it was Windows 11 compliant.

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

#24

Post by netdevphoenix »

kungito wrote: post #21
micronn wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which makes it not free.

You have to log into w11 anyways as a must, no avoiding it. Sure you wouldnt call this free from purist perspective but from consumer perspective it is

I thought you could install w11 offline

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

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Post by rasz »

wvbdmp wrote: post #12

I keep telling people they’re not going to get owned just by booting a Windows 10 machine after october 14. Most people visit Google, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest and Netflix and not much else. If you run sketchy stuff and click sketchy links, you could get owned under support, too. And if the NSA wants to spy on you specifically, Windows 11 isn’t going to stop them. The most pressing (non-compliance) reason to upgrade…

You are losing against Microsoft marketing. In Europe one of the biggest electronic chains MediaMarkt (think bestbuy in its heyday) is currently running commercials targeting older audience and clearly co-financed by Microsoft. Its all about dangers of doing basic ecommerce on "old unsupported computers" and how you are going to have all of your data and identity stolen if you dont upgrade _right now_ to a new computer with Win11.

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

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Post by jezek2 »

wvbdmp wrote: post #12

I keep telling people they’re not going to get owned just by booting a Windows 10 machine after october 14. Most people visit Google, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest and Netflix and not much else. If you run sketchy stuff and click sketchy links, you could get owned under support, too. And if the NSA wants to spy on you specifically, Windows 11 isn’t going to stop them. The most pressing (non-compliance) reason to upgrade…

All software is full of security bugs, supported or not. While supported SW fixes known security bugs it also introduces new ones. Therefore it doesn't matter much, it's all vulnerable.

Security patches are also increasingly misused by the vendors to push unwanted crap.

Other security approaches are needed: firewall, updated browser + adblocker, not clicking on everything, doing research before installing stuff, etc.

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

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Post by Woodi »

akimbostrawman wrote: post #10

https://endof10.org/

I like Linux & Co and do not like Windows accounts etc but "MS wants you buy new computer" is anti slogan. We need new hardware ASAP!

' Problem is: hardware we want probably do not exists yet :) RowHammer ? Are new Intel cpu arch resistant to speculations or how better it is then HT? "Android GPU speculations" from todays news ?

That MS probably wants to bake two tings at once - some security and a lot of slavery - is totally different problem.

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

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Post by Bender »

Given Microsoft created this problem by requiring updated hardware for Windows 11 I suspect this may lead to the same issue that happened with Windows XP. There will be a myriad of ISO's floating around the web with Windows 10 and some slip-streamed updates from paid accounts and who knows what else embedded that people will be using both privately and in their companies to keep things running. This may be a boon for malware distributors and state actors.

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

#29

Post by blibble »

wvbdmp wrote: post #12

I keep telling people they’re not going to get owned just by booting a Windows 10 machine after october 14. Most people visit Google, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest and Netflix and not much else. If you run sketchy stuff and click sketchy links, you could get owned under support, too. And if the NSA wants to spy on you specifically, Windows 11 isn’t going to stop them. The most pressing (non-compliance) reason to upgrade…

> Most people visit Google, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest and Netflix and not much else

anything with google adsense is a malware vector

Re: Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025

#30

Post by TowerTall »

netdevphoenix wrote: post #24
kungito wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to log into w11 anyways as a must, no avoiding it. Sure you wouldnt call this free from purist perspective but from consumer perspective it is

I thought you could install w11 offline

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45497384
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