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Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by themafia »

QuadmasterXLII wrote: post #16
themafia wrote: post #2

Nazi Germany built it's regime through direct control of the media and censorship of anyone or any idea that challenged their ideology. I'm not sure propaganda that ignores the power of propaganda is a great idea.

I don’t quite follow- could you spell out your argument?

This film is an attempt to ignore the economic causes of the war and entirely pin them on the population of Germany. This film mostly seeks to reduce the power of American public participation and labor organization by inferring that anyone who engages in the necessary steps to achieve them must be a type of "proto Nazi" to be ignored or feared.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by themafia »

zaik wrote: post #9
themafia wrote: post #2

Nazi Germany built it's regime through direct control of the media and censorship of anyone or any idea that challenged their ideology. I'm not sure propaganda that ignores the power of propaganda is a great idea.

What has this to do with one another? This video doesn't advocate for censorship of the media.

The public square is a recognized American institution for political change and messaging. The first amendment covers way more than freedom of the press. This video, to me, seems to deride it.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by twothreeone »

One very interesting aspect is how the Churches are portrayed as "seeking truth" and speaking out in this piece. In the US today it is reversed - in large part due to Baptists. But even in Nazi Germany the relationship between the Church and Hitler was much more complicated than portrayed. For instance, many Catholics supported the NSDAP.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by tears-in-rain »

mempko wrote: post #22
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #14

Awesome video. So much great content is so easily accessible today. The challenge is discovery! Grateful HN is a quality “feed” - way better than all the algorithmic feeds.. If something as curated as HN existed & appealed to the masses - even if it was ad funded! - we could live in a different world.

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so, we can agree that will be fedora?

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by MBCook »

113 wrote: post #58
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What problems?

Well it's massively overtly nationalist for one. There's a hilarious sequence at the beginning that's just shots of American industry and agriculture.

Are there governments that aren’t heavily nationalistic in wartime?

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by 113 »

MBCook wrote: post #76
113 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it's massively overtly nationalist for one. There's a hilarious sequence at the beginning that's just shots of American industry and agriculture.

Are there governments that aren’t heavily nationalistic in wartime?

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Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Post by christophilus »

themafia wrote: post #71
QuadmasterXLII wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t quite follow- could you spell out your argument?

This film is an attempt to ignore the economic causes of the war and entirely pin them on the population of Germany. This film mostly seeks to reduce the power of American public participation and labor organization by inferring that anyone who engages in the necessary steps to achieve them must be a type of "proto Nazi" to be ignored or feared.

Dunno. My takeaway was that race baiting and religious bigotry aren’t good for the country, no matter if the party of your choice is the one doing it.
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