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Addictive-like behavioural traits in pet dogs with extreme motivation for toys

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Perhaps not surprising, working breeds – many of which are known to have been artificially selected for high toy or predatory motivation – were overrepresented in the sample. This is the vibe I get from my golden retriever. Chasing the tennis ball is more than play, it's a justification for life, her contribution to the pack. Actually eating food has a higher priority than chasing the ball, but not much else does. Wh…

I grew up with a cocker spaniel obsessed with tennis balls to the point of covering his food with them and letting it rot. Looking into his eyes conveyed no emotion and he didn't seem to care much for affection. He was a tennis ball tracking machine. There was nothing you could do to satiate his desire. If you gave in to a catch session, you could throw it 100 times, he would start coughing/convulsing from exhaustion…

Our samoyed is obsessed, if that is the right word, with being sociable - with people but also other dogs (and the occasional cat or cow). He likes balls but they are a means to an end - getting interaction from me or from other dogs.

Edit: He gets plenty time with other people and dogs - not its not like he is starved for attention.

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i haven't seen any mention of lasers here, so i'll add my laser anecdote. I have a very active German shepherd rescue. I made the mistake of introducing him to the laser pointer which I used to exercise my previous dog, a doberman. Now he lives and breathes for laser. He nags me all day long. He sometimes sees laser dots where there aren't any. His appetite for laser can never be satiated, heh

Studies show laser play actually makes dogs n cats stressed. They need to win to feel fulfilled. They cannot actually catch the laser, so they dont get fulfillment. It can cause a form of PTSD.

Re: Addictive-like behavioural traits in pet dogs with extreme motivation for toys

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Perhaps not surprising, working breeds – many of which are known to have been artificially selected for high toy or predatory motivation – were overrepresented in the sample. This is the vibe I get from my golden retriever. Chasing the tennis ball is more than play, it's a justification for life, her contribution to the pack. Actually eating food has a higher priority than chasing the ball, but not much else does. Wh…

I grew up with a cocker spaniel obsessed with tennis balls to the point of covering his food with them and letting it rot. Looking into his eyes conveyed no emotion and he didn't seem to care much for affection. He was a tennis ball tracking machine. There was nothing you could do to satiate his desire. If you gave in to a catch session, you could throw it 100 times, he would start coughing/convulsing from exhaustion…

This is such a funny write .. thank you!

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As a recovering addict/alcoholic, I completely "get" these dogs and think maybe if this idea spreads it could help non-addicts understand our obsessive/compulsive behavior without as much judgement.

Not sure if comparing human addicts to a dog is the win you think it is.

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There’s some documentation out there suggesting the original Labrador retrievers had food obsession as a trait in common with bidability, which is why more than half of them end up chonky. Not all have the gene but odds are high. There’s a guy who trawls dog rescues looking for retrievers who are toy obsessed and then trains them to hunt truffles. He reasons you can’t reward them with food for finding even tastier fo…

From a dog's PoV , are truffles actually tastier than high quality dog treats?

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Re: Addictive-like behavioural traits in pet dogs with extreme motivation for toys

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i haven't seen any mention of lasers here, so i'll add my laser anecdote. I have a very active German shepherd rescue. I made the mistake of introducing him to the laser pointer which I used to exercise my previous dog, a doberman. Now he lives and breathes for laser. He nags me all day long. He sometimes sees laser dots where there aren't any. His appetite for laser can never be satiated, heh

Studies show laser play actually makes dogs n cats stressed. They need to win to feel fulfilled. They cannot actually catch the laser, so they dont get fulfillment. It can cause a form of PTSD.

Just as an addendum, i looked into this after a few hours of laser play left my pup wandering around searching for it like she was paranoid, her mouth was agape, it was obvious she was worried, not looking to play.

When i found evidence supporting this view, that flew in the face of all i thought i knew about lasers n dogs, i realized how foolish i had been to think pup enjoyed it rather than it being unfulfilled prey drive and protection of the home drive.

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post #122

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Studies show laser play actually makes dogs n cats stressed. They need to win to feel fulfilled. They cannot actually catch the laser, so they dont get fulfillment. It can cause a form of PTSD.

Just as an addendum, i looked into this after a few hours of laser play left my pup wandering around searching for it like she was paranoid, her mouth was agape, it was obvious she was worried, not looking to play. When i found evidence supporting this view, that flew in the face of all i thought i knew about lasers n dogs, i realized how foolish i had been to think pup enjoyed it rather than it being unfulfilled pre…

Final addition, we eased her stress by letting her chase it out of the house. It never returned.

Re: Addictive-like behavioural traits in pet dogs with extreme motivation for toys

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I grew up with a cocker spaniel obsessed with tennis balls to the point of covering his food with them and letting it rot. Looking into his eyes conveyed no emotion and he didn't seem to care much for affection. He was a tennis ball tracking machine. There was nothing you could do to satiate his desire. If you gave in to a catch session, you could throw it 100 times, he would start coughing/convulsing from exhaustion…

Our samoyed is obsessed, if that is the right word, with being sociable - with people but also other dogs (and the occasional cat or cow). He likes balls but they are a means to an end - getting interaction from me or from other dogs. Edit: He gets plenty time with other people and dogs - not its not like he is starved for attention.

It must be a breed trait. Growing up, my neighbor had a Samoyed. My brothers and I would go over and play with him for hours on end and he would wear us out. We were young and had crazy kid energy, but he would wear us out. No amount of attention was enough.

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Our samoyed is obsessed, if that is the right word, with being sociable - with people but also other dogs (and the occasional cat or cow). He likes balls but they are a means to an end - getting interaction from me or from other dogs. Edit: He gets plenty time with other people and dogs - not its not like he is starved for attention.

It must be a breed trait. Growing up, my neighbor had a Samoyed. My brothers and I would go over and play with him for hours on end and he would wear us out. We were young and had crazy kid energy, but he would wear us out . No amount of attention was enough.

We walk him about 3 hours a day on average - fortunately for him he gets lot of attention from people when we are out.

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We got a purebred Aussie sheepdog (kelpie) that failed its tests at a year old. They were going to shoot her, so she became our family pet. She was obsessed with rounding things up - cats, ducks, kids, you name it. Part of her dna for sure.

If she was tested (for shepherding?) it sounds like she was probably trained...

Sheep dogs will herd instinctively. Just not as effectively as those with training.
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