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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by crtasm »

somenameforme wrote: post #247
crtasm wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did you find this context? in particular >obviously rather unhinged, a political extremist

Normal people don't post 'memes' with images of dying people in them. If you don't understand this imagine a 'meme' that showed that terrifying image of the dying Iryna Zarutska in it, murderer right behind her, and posted some edgelord caption below it. You only do this sort of stuff if you're completely screwed in the head, generally caused by political extremism.

You seem to be avoiding the question.

Here's another: what meme did he post with a picture of a dying person in? I didn't see that in the reporting.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by [deleted] »

eth0up wrote: post #251
estearum wrote: post #200

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It would be unjust to imprison or even have law enforcement knock on the door of a person who was celebrating in the streets that he died! This is completely out of bounds for the United States. But that's the Woke Right for ya.

Woke right. That actually makes sense. Same form of madness. It will be interesting to see the eventually empowered Left use reflective (identical) tactics to seal the coffin of the Second Amendment. And one could almost pity the... 'woke' Right for not seeing it coming. I lean right. But I'm getting vertigo. I think China must have put prions in our Tupperware a long time ago. We're a dead fuckin ringer for hopeless…

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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

nailer wrote: post #264
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #224

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> Why is it bad to call criminals cockroaches? It's dehumanizing [1]. > vast majority of crime is immoral The most immoral acts in human history, crimes against humanity, have followed campaigns of dehumanization. (The term cockroaches is also peculiarly linked to historical genocides. If Kirk wasn't aware of the reference he was making, he was almost certainly citing someone who was.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…

Wikipedia isn’t a reference. Also you missed this earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45553429

> Wikipedia isn’t a reference

I just referenced it, so it literally is.

The wild thing about this thread is I’ve gone from being gently supportive of Charlie Kirk vigilers to sort of concluding they’re just cover for extremism.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by estearum »

nailer wrote: post #276
estearum wrote: post #269

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What on earth are you talking about? Is this some word-association game where you’re finding your way back to people celebrating Kirk’s murder?

I’m stating you’re concerned with trivial matters.

I've re-read the thread a couple times now and frankly it seems like there's a piece of the puzzle you're not sharing with me.

"Criminals are cockroaches because they're evil" makes literally no sense. Even if one accepts that anyone who commits a crime is de facto evil (very silly), cockroaches obviously aren't evil!

The non-sequitur about trivial vs non-trivial problems is just that: a non-sequitur.

Is it just that you're okay with exterminating certain types of people (like they're cockroaches), therefore it makes sense to call them cockroaches? You should just say it so we can stop this very strange word association game.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by zzzeek »

mindslight wrote: post #274
zzzeek wrote: post #244

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why do we need to do that? Which of the two political parties in the US is known as "conservative"? What does that party look like now? What policies are being pursued by that party's elected officials, and how much do they differ in concept from what that same party was doing ten years ago, twenty years ago, fifty years ago? The Southern Strategy, Reagan's speech at Neshoba county fair, "Starve the Beast", "Brownie…

Try painting with a less broad brush. I agree that we're experiencing the endgame of the Republican political operatives scorched-earth divisive tactics, but to insist on tying all their latent supporters to that is a grave mistake. Imagine for a minute, if you will, that there are reasonable people who believe in some conservative values, but don't examine the rest of the party platform (or its results) all too hard…

i live in a town full of Republicans. Some are more soft spoken than others, but to claim that any of them are not MAGA (which would mean they actually did not vote for Trump) is simply ridiculous. the "non-MAGA republican" is basically a few hundred famous podcast hosts who were ejected from the power they had under the Bush regime. That's pretty much it.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by mindslight »

zzzeek wrote: post #286
mindslight wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try painting with a less broad brush. I agree that we're experiencing the endgame of the Republican political operatives scorched-earth divisive tactics, but to insist on tying all their latent supporters to that is a grave mistake. Imagine for a minute, if you will, that there are reasonable people who believe in some conservative values, but don't examine the rest of the party platform (or its results) all too hard…

i live in a town full of Republicans. Some are more soft spoken than others, but to claim that any of them are not MAGA (which would mean they actually did not vote for Trump) is simply ridiculous. the "non-MAGA republican" is basically a few hundred famous podcast hosts who were ejected from the power they had under the Bush regime. That's pretty much it.

> but to claim that any of them are not MAGA

> (which would mean they actually did not vote for Trump)

There is a difference between these two things, no? I've talked to people who voted for Trump subsequently regretted it after they saw what he is actually doing. Low. Information. Voters.

Our goal should be to leverage this difference. It's self-defeating to simply assume everyone that voted for Trump in 2024 continues to support cozying up to middle eastern autocrats, covering up the Epstein case, bully pulpit led cryptocurrency fraud, middle of the night raids on entire apartment buildings, deploying National Guards to occupy American cities and attack protestors, deliberately inhumane treatment of deportees while mostly letting businesses continue on as usual, etc. Or even that they support things that Trump did in his first term, like attacking the second amendment (eg his leadership around Kenneth Walker / Breonna Taylor).

Of course some of these topics are more subtle and lend themselves to propaganda bubbles. Like dwelling on the concentration camps probably isn't the best idea, since it's so easy to shut off one's empathy. But these are the angles of engagement we need to be looking for - unless we're just going to watch our Constitutional Republic being destroyed for four years, while hoping there might be some pieces left to pick up at the end.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by ThrowMeAway1618 »

overfeed wrote: post #142
somenameforme wrote: post #122

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The article discusses this, and explains why the sheriff is contorting the plain meaning of his 4-words and an image (about Kirk) into a threat of violence (to a nearby school). This won't stand in court, so they are punishing him before then.

>The article discusses this, and explains why the sheriff is contorting the plain meaning of his 4-words and an image (about Kirk) into a threat of violence (to a nearby school). This won't stand in court, so they are punishing him before then.

"For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law."

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by welzel »

What did people expect to happen? Nobody seems to ask the question why military is being deployed to US cities. What would be your assumption if the same happens in Africa or South America? Seriously, how stupid can people be ...

I have many friends who already left the US or prepared to leave at a moments notice. None of them are actually political, but they are aware that 1984 is already fully implemented and at any point in time it could get very, very ugly very quickly.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Post by 1659447091 »

tavavex wrote: post #217
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #161

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Nothing in the law [1] requires he come up with that sum himself . (The qualifier implies e.g. a legal defence fund or even family member couldn't help.) [1] https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/114/Bill/SB0464.pdf

That seems kind of pedantic. From what the original commenter said, my immediate interpretation of it was that the obligation to procure the money and pay up is on his side, not that the $200k must be 'his' in some other way. It doesn't matter what source he gets it from, but the bill is on him to pay.

For what its worth I thought the same thing -- that he had to get it himself -- as I already assumed to get a bail bond you still had to pay a percent first. I guess I have been desensitized enough towards absurd laws being from Texas that the idea of TN (or other southern/red states) passing something like that would not be shocking. I do appreciate the clarification/explanation.
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