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People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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Matrix got it a bit wrong; the machines aren't interested in our body heat, they're going to put us in the goo pods and force use to watch adverts 24/7

Why? What do they or their creators get out of it?

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Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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These days, the general rule is to avoid buying anything 'smart'. They are all filled with advertisements and data-sharing practices and are designed to target you through their user interface and applications. They bombard you with offers for their other products and deals.

Also the UX and human interface design on them is usually bafflingly bad. Like smartphones.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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Matrix got it a bit wrong; the machines aren't interested in our body heat, they're going to put us in the goo pods and force use to watch adverts 24/7

Why? What do they or their creators get out of it?

Obviously platforms get advertiser dollars, but the question is what the business paying for that gets. The answer is.. almost nothing? Dedicated marketing/advertising resources at your business is probably just a fifth column, where shareholders and business owners are swindled into paying the salary and other maintenance for people who are actually working for google/facebook/amazon/whatever.

Source? Like 20+ years of ubiquitous surveillance, tracking and micro-targeting.. and yet non-pet owners still get ads for dog food, males get ads for feminine hygiene products, single people are offered deals on family vacations, and people who just bought a car get car advertisements for the next 3-5 years which only taper off when it might actually be time to buy another car.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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Then don’t buy from them, plenty of venues

I’ve purchased and backed up over 700 kindle books over the years. The day Amazon made backups impossible I switched to Kobo and have never looked back. Amazon can can go forth and multiply with itself.

Backups aren't impossible, its just a bit harder than it used to be.

That said, Kobo is great if they have the book you're looking for.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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I see many comments that express the same level of disgust I have for modern TV's, of nearly every brand, having mutated into intrusive digital signage with integrated behavioral tracking in my home.

The question is: Would you pay $1000 to $3000 more (depending on size, etc.) for a TV with none of that. Zero.

I would.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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I’m afraid to upgrade from my ~6 year old LG OLED with a damaged corner because I pair it with an Apple TV and only see Apple ads occasionally on the Home Screen. I don’t know if a newer tv would give me the same experience.

Most new TV's are fine if you just never connect them to network.

Except FireTV's. They complain constantly about the missing internet connection because they REALLY want to show you those ads.

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We're way overdue to abolish the DMCA, in particular the "anti-circumvention" felonies. It shouldn't be a crime for me to customize the product I purchased. Or to sell people a kit to do the customization themselves.

Throw away the DMCA and you throw away all safe harbors for websites, and then the internet is truly screwed. There's no way the current congress would ever accept such a thing again -- Section 230 has been weaponized against it already. What we should be saying is Improve the DMCA. You've already clued into the biggest thing that needs to change (DRM/anti-anti-circumvention). Let's not throw the baby out with the ba…

Any improvement is a change and you can’t just make “improvements” when the changes require politicians. It’s likely they would seize the opportunity to change a lot more than the improvements you feel are needed.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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Benjamin Franklin was so close. "Nothing is certain but death ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶a̶x̶e̶s̶.̶"̶, taxes, and ads."

Franklin was a publisher, and sold advertising, no? Washington wasn't much of a Temperance preacher neither.

Now I'm wondering, the first news papers were sold out on the street. How long was it before there were ads in them? And was there the same intellectual hand-wringing about it at the time?

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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These days, the general rule is to avoid buying anything 'smart'. They are all filled with advertisements and data-sharing practices and are designed to target you through their user interface and applications. They bombard you with offers for their other products and deals.

Is it even possible to buy a non-smart tv these days?

All I really need or want is something I can plug a few gaming consoles into... so HDMI, composite and preferably s-video. No bells or whistles or Internet connection necessary.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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I see many comments that express the same level of disgust I have for modern TV's, of nearly every brand, having mutated into intrusive digital signage with integrated behavioral tracking in my home. The question is: Would you pay $1000 to $3000 more (depending on size, etc.) for a TV with none of that. Zero. I would.

No need to connect or use any smart tv feature.

How much is your time worth? Apple TV is the best experience (not even close to FireTV) for the cost of it. There are ways to get completely ad free if you have time. I've been using a HTPC for close to 20 years for example.

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