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People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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These days, the general rule is to avoid buying anything 'smart'. They are all filled with advertisements and data-sharing practices and are designed to target you through their user interface and applications. They bombard you with offers for their other products and deals.

"Smart" just means enshittegenic. Ripe for enshittification.

To stick to the metaphor (apologies if this isn't HN friendly)

Smart TV? Fart TV

Smart display? Fart display

Smart fridge? Fart fridge

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

#42
I've had two different family members complain that now days when they unlock their Fire Tablet, it launches the Amazon Store app to display the product page of whatever product was being advertised when they unlock the tablet.

Is Amazon charging businesses who use their ad platform a fee based on how many times they display a product page?

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

#43
post #10

I recently bought a Kindle/Fire device pre-owned, to save money. But seeing full-screen shitty consumer products ads on the 'covers of my books', sitting around my home was so depressing, I paid the extra $10-$15, to retroactively turn it into an ad-free device.[1] Though, even with Special Offers disabled, it still puts oversized icons for marketing promotions, bursting out of the search bar at the top of the home s…

Same thing with Audible. Very annoying. When you open the app, it shows you ads for books to buy instead of the books you already have or the book you're listening to now. Of course, they do not care. Whether you actually listen to the book isn't that important to them, as long as you buy it.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then don’t buy from them, plenty of venues

Many with trade offs. I recommend the pocketbook 4. You can disable recommendations easily, and the unit mounts as a disk so you can read and write books as if it were an SD card. No internet required. No sync software required. It’s quite nice!

Ditto. It's also significantly lighter weight than competing readers (at least when I bought mine), has physical buttons, has color models, and has really good battery life possibly because it runs a custom Linux instead of Android.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

#45

These days, the general rule is to avoid buying anything 'smart'. They are all filled with advertisements and data-sharing practices and are designed to target you through their user interface and applications. They bombard you with offers for their other products and deals.

I'm technically ignorant on this but would GDPR apply to this type of thing as well? (I hope so)

GDPR doesnt block ads

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

#47
This is part of why I refuse to purchase things that further enshittification on principle, even if it means "putting up with" an open-source alternative.

Anecdotally, I think that open-source software/hardware only ever gets better (because if it got worse, someone would fork it, etc...) while proprietary software will eventually succumb to rent-seeking and decline. I've seen many open source projects go from barely usable to matching their proprietary counterparts.

Shoutout to Immich, full-featured self-hosted Google Photos alternative and my new favourite open-source project.

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

#48
post #33

We're way overdue to abolish the DMCA, in particular the "anti-circumvention" felonies. It shouldn't be a crime for me to customize the product I purchased. Or to sell people a kit to do the customization themselves.

Better yet: ban hardware vendors from denying the user an ability to customize software.

They don't have to make it easy, but they should be forced to give a way to opt out of walled gardens and bypass "secure boot".

Re: People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads

#50
I had buyers regret after getting a Mycroft II device a few years ago. Lots of drama there. I still think it was an inspiring vision but you can't spell hardware without hard.

But then I recently found neon which allows me to repurpose the device. And, it is incredible.

I recall trying to build something for the Google devices and it was an awful experience. Getting root ssh access on my Mycroft device is amazing, and I have tailscale on it to boot.

And, no ads, ever.

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